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03.03.2007, 14:40 quote

Anonymous

Aradon wrote:
lmao SC, the US are a VERY aggresive nation, they are so busy trying to police the entire world and tbh, it's not their f*cking job
That statement is totally inaccurate. America was very slow to start a war on terrorism. American forcves were attacked by Hezbollah in 1983 in Lebanon. America was hit by Islamic terrorism in 1993 when the world trade center was bombed. It was attacked abroad when Al Qaeda bombed the USS Cole in 1998 and its Embasies in Tanzania and Kenya. Only when the American mainland was attacked by a massive atrocity in September 2001 did it delcare a world wide war on terrorism, stating that it would make no difference between the states that sponser terrorism and the terrorists themselves.

 
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04.03.2007, 14:03 quote

DrBrightside
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You've obviosuly forgotten about when Clinton bombed a paracetamol factory. Aggression doesn't have to mean a military attack. Bullies use threats and sanctions.

 
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04.03.2007, 14:16 quote

francy

well why havent they bombed london, or havent you bothered to read the o'loan report, which clearly states that many people were killed by terrorists, working for, and in the payroll of the british state...or is it a case of your terrorism good, my terrorism bad

have a look at this stoney http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4552241204719421053

stonecastle wrote:
Aradon wrote:
lmao SC, the US are a VERY aggresive nation, they are so busy trying to police the entire world and tbh, it's not their f*cking job
That statement is totally inaccurate. America was very slow to start a war on terrorism. American forcves were attacked by Hezbollah in 1983 in Lebanon. America was hit by Islamic terrorism in 1993 when the world trade center was bombed. It was attacked abroad when Al Qaeda bombed the USS Cole in 1998 and its Embasies in Tanzania and Kenya. Only when the American mainland was attacked by a massive atrocity in September 2001 did it delcare a world wide war on terrorism, stating that it would make no difference between the states that sponser terrorism and the terrorists themselves.
Very Happy

 
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04.03.2007, 15:10 quote

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04.03.2007, 15:43 quote

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chris343 wrote:
DrBrightside wrote:
You've obviosuly forgotten about when Clinton bombed a paracetamol factory. Aggression doesn't have to mean a military attack. Bullies use threats and sanctions.



Congrats, Your annoying stupid


Dude, what is your problem? Why don't you tell me why you have a problem with what I'm saying?

 
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04.03.2007, 16:18 quote

francy

hey lads, play the ball...fball fball


DrBrightside wrote:
chris343 wrote:
DrBrightside wrote:
You've obviosuly forgotten about when Clinton bombed a paracetamol factory. Aggression doesn't have to mean a military attack. Bullies use threats and sanctions.



Congrats, Your annoying stupid


Dude, what is your problem? Why don't you tell me why you have a problem with what I'm saying?
fball

 
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04.03.2007, 18:37 quote

Anonymous

francy wrote:
well why havent they bombed london.
They have! Do you not remember the London bombings on July 7th 2005? They were later found to be the work of Al Qaeda after one of the bombers appeared in a video. Loads of other countries too have been bombed by Al Qaeda including some muslim countries such as Indonesia ie the Bali bombing. Al Qaeda are Islamic extremists who hate not just westerners but other muslims who do not subscribe to their extremist view of Islam.

 
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05.03.2007, 21:55 quote

ChiefOHara
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chris343 wrote:
DrBrightside wrote:
You've obviosuly forgotten about when Clinton bombed a paracetamol factory. Aggression doesn't have to mean a military attack. Bullies use threats and sanctions.



Congrats, Your annoying stupid


Chris, you make another personal attack for no reason then i will issue you with a warning. Just because you do not agree with a persons viewpoint does not give you licence to ridicule them.

 
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05.03.2007, 22:08 quote

ChiefOHara
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stonecastle wrote:
Aradon wrote:
lmao SC, the US are a VERY aggresive nation, they are so busy trying to police the entire world and tbh, it's not their f*cking job
That statement is totally inaccurate. America was very slow to start a war on terrorism. American forcves were attacked by Hezbollah in 1983 in Lebanon. America was hit by Islamic terrorism in 1993 when the world trade center was bombed. It was attacked abroad when Al Qaeda bombed the USS Cole in 1998 and its Embasies in Tanzania and Kenya. Only when the American mainland was attacked by a massive atrocity in September 2001 did it delcare a world wide war on terrorism, stating that it would make no difference between the states that sponser terrorism and the terrorists themselves.


I remember the US standing by and doing nothing when Lebannon was attacked recently by Israel Stonecastle. The Rest of the world was calling for a ceasefire, they were the only ones refusing to do so. I wouldn't hold up US foreign Policy as the moral bastion by which the world should stand by.

Also the Invasion of Iraq has nothing to do with Terrorism and everything to do with Halliburton. There were no WMD's, there was no immenient threat, There was no mushroom cloud on the horizon. Saddamn Hussein in the last days prior to the war even started decommissioning long range missles in an attempt to asuage US anger. The Invasion of Iraq was an aggressive invasion of a sovereign nation by another. The continual awarding of uncontested contracts to Halliburton and its affliates makes the US more about occupation rather than liberation. The Bush Admin basically lied through their goddamn teeth, have been caught and proven to be doing so, and incredibly people are still defending them.

 
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05.03.2007, 22:11 quote

Anonymous

i'v noticed this is a touchy subject that no one wants to join in with, i think their wise not to.

 
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05.03.2007, 22:13 quote

francy

thats politics....lol...


brightfame wrote:
i'v noticed this is a touchy subject that no one wants to join in with, i think their wise not to.

 
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05.03.2007, 22:15 quote

ChiefOHara
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brightfame wrote:
i'v noticed this is a touchy subject that no one wants to join in with, i think their wise not to.


Politics generally tends to be, but you have to remember some people enjoy the arguments and the debates. one positive thing about debating politics is that it either helps you to refine your viewpoint or realise your mistakes in it. I wouldn't post in this area if i didn't enjoy it.

 
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05.03.2007, 22:35 quote

Anonymous

I think i'll leave this one alone, you know what i'm like! so i wont bother giving you my views, but you seem like a very articulate, intelligent sort of guy who's able to get there point across precisly without offence to the other person, i hope you find a soloution to the problem, of a hopless cause which is terrorism. but i think your wasting your breath Smile sorry

ChiefOHara wrote:
brightfame wrote:
i'v noticed this is a touchy subject that no one wants to join in with, i think their wise not to.


Politics generally tends to be, but you have to remember some people enjoy the arguments and the debates. one positive thing about debating politics is that it either helps you to refine your viewpoint or realise your mistakes in it. I wouldn't post in this area if i didn't enjoy it.

 
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06.03.2007, 04:12 quote

chris343
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ChiefOHara wrote:
chris343 wrote:
DrBrightside wrote:
You've obviosuly forgotten about when Clinton bombed a paracetamol factory. Aggression doesn't have to mean a military attack. Bullies use threats and sanctions.



Congrats, Your annoying stupid


Chris, you make another personal attack for no reason then i will issue you with a warning. Just because you do not agree with a persons viewpoint does not give you licence to ridicule them.



Sorry, DrBrightside Ill PM you ......
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06.03.2007, 14:33 quote

Anonymous

ChiefOHara wrote:
Also the Invasion of Iraq has nothing to do with Terrorism and everything to do with Halliburton. There were no WMD's, there was no immenient threat.
No Saddam only murdered and tortured hundreds of thousands of his own people. He only persecuted the Kurds and drove over a million of them from their homeland. He only refused to co-operate with UN weapons inspectors for 12 years, he only gave a safe haven to international terrorists like Abu Nidal notorious Palestinian terrorist and to one of the 1993 World Trade Center bombers. He only invaded Kuwait in 1990, then set fire to hundreds of oil wells while retreating, poured crude oil into the Persian Gulf and fired missiles at neutral Israel. He only went to war with Iran for eight years from 1980 to 88 resulting in a war that caused one million deaths. I think America was fully justified in removing such an evil regime.

 
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