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09.03.2007, 02:41 quote
It seems if Democrats have their way, their could be a swift withdrawal by fall of 08'
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17516954/
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09.03.2007, 08:34 quote
The ideal germ cell for terrorists 
A lot worse then before the war (and lots of innocent victims and destruction of ancient buildings). But that's what lots of politicians from "Old Europe" said before the war - which is why they were against it....as one of the reasons besides that starting a war is a crime in the first place.
09.03.2007, 14:15 quote
The Only thing keeping the place together at the moment is the US troops.
If they pull out then Iraq is going to go nuts. In all probability after the civil war comes to a bloody end, it'll end up as a fundamentalist islamic republic.
If the US pull out, will the UN go in? Iraq unfortunatly can't be left to its own devices at this stage as the newly formed Iraqi police and army aren't up to the task of keeping the country in one piece. So does that mean UN intervention? what happens when the US pull out?
09.03.2007, 16:44 quote
| ChiefOHara wrote: |
| The Only thing keeping the place together at the moment is the US troops.
If they pull out then Iraq is going to go nuts. In all probability after the civil war comes to a bloody end, it'll end up as a fundamentalist islamic republic. If the US pull out, will the UN go in? Iraq unfortunatly can't be left to its own devices at this stage as the newly formed Iraqi police and army aren't up to the task of keeping the country in one piece. So does that mean UN intervention? what happens when the US pull out? |
Sadly, Iraq will go to complete chaos, and it'll be at the expense of the innocent people.
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09.03.2007, 18:56 quote
| chris343 wrote: |
| Sadly, Iraq will go to complete chaos, and it'll be at the expense of the innocent people. |
10.03.2007, 03:15 quote
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How many of those troops mdo you belive are loyal?? Once we leave they will turn their back on the cause. I can almost bet the governemnt we have installed their will not last 3 months without us.
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10.03.2007, 18:29 quote
| chris343 wrote: |
| How many of those troops mdo you belive are loyal?? Once we leave they will turn their back on the cause. I can almost bet the governemnt we have installed their will not last 3 months without us. |
10.03.2007, 19:04 quote
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The sectarian tensions that are fueling the civil war are nation wide Stone. Sunni's and Shi'ites are at each others throats and all the local wannabee tin pot dictators like Muqtada al-Sadr are turning up the heat so they can consolodate their own position within their own communities. These sectarian tensions existed long before Saddamn fell, and they'll be there long after.
The Iraqi forces, unfortunatly have had their training limited by their poor level of literacy.
http://www.marforres.usmc.mil/News/2007.02/literacy.html
And the US forces have made consistent complaints of 'Loyal' Iraqi troops turning on them in firefights.
http://www.counterpunch.org/cohn06222006.html
As for the attacks being concentrated on Baghdad.... well ill have to take your word for it, but thats probably because its one of the few places or cities left with enough infrastructure to attack.
As for the Private contractors... The vast majority of them are scum.
http://archive.corporatewatch.org/news/mercenery.htm
http://www.duckdaotsu.org/bush_butcher.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,,1935676,00.html
This is a video of the conduct of Private security in Iraq.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IJnbvO74K8
Iraq is in deep deep trouble.
12.03.2007, 04:49 quote
| ChiefOHara wrote: | ||||
The sectarian tensions that are fueling the civil war are nation wide Stone. Sunni's and Shi'ites are at each others throats and all the local wannabee tin pot dictators like Muqtada al-Sadr are turning up the heat so they can consolodate their own position within their own communities. These sectarian tensions existed long before Saddamn fell, and they'll be there long after. The Iraqi forces, unfortunatly have had their training limited by their poor level of literacy. http://www.marforres.usmc.mil/News/2007.02/literacy.html And the US forces have made consistent complaints of 'Loyal' Iraqi troops turning on them in firefights. http://www.counterpunch.org/cohn06222006.html As for the attacks being concentrated on Baghdad.... well ill have to take your word for it, but thats probably because its one of the few places or cities left with enough infrastructure to attack. As for the Private contractors... The vast majority of them are scum. http://archive.corporatewatch.org/news/mercenery.htm http://www.duckdaotsu.org/bush_butcher.html http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,,1935676,00.html This is a video of the conduct of Private security in Iraq. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IJnbvO74K8 Iraq is in deep deep trouble. |
That video is disturbing, were lucky to live in countires where none of that happens..
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12.03.2007, 21:37 quote
By the way if you want to read something positive about Iraq go to http://www.protestwarrior.com Conditions in Iraq are improving gradually for example there has been massive rebuilding in Iraq with new hospitals, new schools and new homes built, new businesses started and new jobs created. And despite all the news of bombings most of Iraqs' provinces are peaceful, with the majority of violence concentrated around Bagdad.
13.03.2007, 04:07 quote
| stonecastle wrote: |
| By the way if you want to read something positive about Iraq go to http://www.protestwarrior.com Conditions in Iraq are improving gradually for example there has been massive rebuilding in Iraq with new hospitals, new schools and new homes built, new businesses started and new jobs created. And despite all the news of bombings most of Iraqs' provinces are peaceful, with the majority of violence concentrated around Bagdad. |
I wish it'd go faster.
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13.03.2007, 21:01 quote
| stonecastle wrote: |
| By the way if you want to read something positive about Iraq go to http://www.protestwarrior.com Conditions in Iraq are improving gradually for example there has been massive rebuilding in Iraq with new hospitals, new schools and new homes built, new businesses started and new jobs created. And despite all the news of bombings most of Iraqs' provinces are peaceful, with the majority of violence concentrated around Bagdad. |
Is that because all the old hospitals, old schools, old homes, old businesses and old jobs were bombed in the invasion? mind you, that said, a 100,000 civilians dead does lead to some job positions opening up.
Sorry Stonecastle, but i fail to see how the current mess is any bit of an improvement on the old mess.
Oh and by the way all those re-building contracts went straight into the pockets of the corporate cheerleaders and backers of the (%$&^%@£) 's that pushed for this war.
Those bastards made millions off the deaths and suffering of people.
I don't give a damn what moral reasoning they come up with. Those parasites profited from the blood of Iraqi people and the blood of British and American soldiers, and NOTHING repeat... NOTHING .... they say otherwise changes that fact.
16.03.2007, 20:12 quote
| ChiefOHara wrote: |
| Is that because all the old hospitals, old schools, old homes, old businesses and old jobs were bombed in the invasion? |
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| a 100,000 civilians dead does lead to some job positions opening up. |
16.03.2007, 20:53 quote
I swear, saddam had the right idea, since he's been gone the place has gone to total pot.
my solution?
1. pull out all those that aren't bothered with ji-had's and murder
2. build a great big fuck off wall around the place
3. nuke the joint back to the stoneages.
harsh, but it would work.
*awaits the abuse*
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