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05.12.2008, 22:08 quote

kadushu

Compulsory sterilisation for low-lifes?

Please discuss

 

05.12.2008, 22:09 quote

70

So whos going to decide whos a lowlife or not Confused

 

05.12.2008, 22:13 quote

cheekykev

Me


7 kids from 5 different dads - marry me I hate that woman for what she did to her daughter

 

05.12.2008, 22:16 quote

70

I agree with you but not everyone is tarred with the same brush...surely.....its like saying that all unemployed are loosers/scroungers like me?

 

05.12.2008, 22:26 quote

cheekykev

Not at all .. the OP was referring to Karen Mathews, and was referring to her as a lowlife ..... not the unemployed ???

 

05.12.2008, 22:28 quote

mimib
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I can't believe that you want to discuss that. That was already reality and a famous doctor doing it was Josef Mengele!

 

05.12.2008, 22:30 quote

70

I was just doing a comparrison, if the social services did their job earlier it would never have happened, they have a lot to answer for Confused

 

05.12.2008, 22:33 quote

rocketgirl

Yeah, very difficult to be unbiased.
My immediate response is "string her up, a bullet's too good for the bitch".
I know a lady who had several kids by several husbands.
First one died of cancer when she was 19 and pregnant.
Second one ran off with another woman.
Third one died in a motorbike accident.
She's with her fourth husband and has 6 kids now.
Is she a low-life? No, never been on benefits, live in a posh area and are very active in their community through their church.
So, you cant label someone a low-life and shout "sterilisation" just based on the ratio of kids to partners.....although its tempting when I see photos of that shower of shite!

I read about this case in The Sun today - out of idle curiosity - and quite frankly, I dont believe half of what I read, but no wonder people are baying for blood.

I'm not defending her, just not sure she's quite as evil as she's been portrayed. A bit evil most likely of course, but I'd rather judge her and find her wanting based on her real crimes, not the scintillating claptrap the Sun churns out.

Personally, I think this matthews woman is a very good case for eugenics, yes.
But it will never happen, because she will have a plethora of social workers crying "human rights" from her corner.

 

05.12.2008, 22:39 quote

rocketgirl

mimib wrote:
I can't believe that you want to discuss that. That was already reality and a famous doctor doing it was Josef Mengele!


This is a very good reason why it can never happen.

It is a very dangerous thing to give any person the power to decide these things.

Loosely topical, I am against all capital punishment, because just one innocent person going to the gallows is one too many, in my book.

As LV has mentioned, the social services need to wake up and start doing their jobs better, then less of these cases would happen in the first place if they nipped it in the bud.
And educating the parents, and supporting those that need support would help too.
And taking the child out of the situation in the first instance perhaps...lots of cans of worms that no one wants the responsibility of opening....

 

05.12.2008, 22:39 quote

kadushu

Ok, I'll clarify. I mean idiots with no morals.

 

05.12.2008, 22:41 quote

kadushu

Furthermore, is there EVER a case for eugenics?

 

05.12.2008, 22:42 quote

rocketgirl

But who decides is an idiot?
And who decides is lacking morals?
Which morals? Whose morals? On what basis?

 

05.12.2008, 22:44 quote

rocketgirl

kadushu wrote:
Furthermore, is there EVER a case for eugenics?


Personally, I think yes probably.
But like I said it will not and *should not* ever happen, for the reasons I already mentioned, and what mimib said.

 

05.12.2008, 22:44 quote

cheekykev

Alice the lady you knew is a different case altogether, and i can understand her situation .... but shannon mathews mum is a slapper and probably had more kids to get a bigger feckn house and more child benefit.

 

05.12.2008, 22:47 quote

70

So do a lot of other women out there but they dont kidnap there kids Confused

 
 
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