So you have a neo-fundamentalist christian agenda going on?

How do our hindu/pagan brother feel when they do not recognise the morning star?

satanism is just another religion. get over it.

in this day and age surely we are free to choose which "god" if any we worship. i dont go to church, i eat meat on good friday and i dont wear the ashes on my head on ash wednesday..... in fact i dont worship a god at all even though i was christened a catholic. should i be burned at the stake as a witch? lol i think not.

so you're saying that if the goddess exists that christianity is not a religion lol ... ya can't pick n choose. worshipping a god (good or evil) makes it a religion.

but hey we'll all find out the truth when we die, wont we?

Nope, just in this instance.

Satanism must recognise that the abrahamic god exists surely, as satan 'freed' us from our animalistic instincts (the whole kicked outo of the garden of eden parable)

Maybe it is all semantics, but then I think I am speaking from ignorance of 'satanic' lore. I believe that it is about freedom of the individual, I'm not sure whether is has a similar mantra to wicca "Do as thou shalt whilst harming none".

ah now whizzer you're thinking of christian tales where satan gets turfed out lol...... in satanism perhaps the tales are somewhat different and dont even mention a god.. perhaps in satanism, satan IS god.


one thing i would like to ask is why do ppl blame the devil when bad things happen... surely he would be more likely to tempt you with delights than test your faith with disaster. any ideas?

not true hunni... if you look up any religion or civilisation you will find a "villian" in the picture.

Just in case you haven't read any Satanic material before now, here is a quote from The Satanic Bible:
There is no heaven of glory bright, and no hell where sinners roast. Here and now is our day of torment! Here and now is our day of joy! Here and now is our opportunity! Choose ye this day, this hour, for no redeemer liveth!
The Satanic Bible: The Book of Satan IV:2

taken from this site...
http://www.dpjs.co.uk/devil.html



The Devil - From Greek diabolos, “slanderer,” or “accuser”, the spirit or power of evil. Though sometimes used for minor demonic spirits, the word devil generally refers to the prince of evil spirits and as such takes various forms in the religions of the world.

In the monotheistic Western religions, the devil is viewed as a fallen angel who in pride has tried to usurp the position of the one and only God. In Judaism, and later Christianity, the devil was known as Satan. In the Old Testament, Satan is viewed as the prosecutor of Yahweh's court, as in Job, chapters 1 and 2, but he is not regarded as an adversary of God. In post biblical Judaism and in Christianity, however, Satan became known as the “prince of devils” and assumed various names: Beelzebub (“Lord of Flies”) in Matthew 12:24–27, often cited as Beelzebub - “Lord of Dung”), and Lucifer (the fallen angel of Light).

In Christian theology the devil's main task is that of tempting man to reject the way of life and redemption and to accept the way of death and destruction. The leader of the angels who have fallen from heaven because of pride, Satan has as his main adversary in Christian thought, legend, and iconography the archangel Michael, leader of God's heavenly hosts.

Islāmic theology is rich in references to Iblīs, the personal name of the devil, who is also known as ash-Shayṭān (“The Demon”) and ʿaduw Allah (“Enemy of God”). In the Qurʾān, Iblīs first appears in the story of the creation of the world. He alone of the angels refuses God's order to bow before Adam, the first man. He is then cursed by God; his punishment is to come on the Day of Judgment, but until then he is empowered to tempt the unfaithful (but not true believers). Iblīs next appears as the tempter of Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden. In Islāmic theology, Iblīs is described as an angel, a jinn (spiritual creature capable of good or evil), or anangel who was the leader of the jinni. The questions of his sins of pride and disobedience are especially important in the Ṣūfī traditions, in which he is sometimes presented as a true monotheist who would bow only to God.

The devil was also an important figure in certain syncretic religions. In Gnosticism the devil was often called the Demiurge (the Creator) and in Manichaeism the Prince of Darkness, as well as other names.

The devil, as the great power of evil, has been much depicted in religious and secular literature and art. At various intervals in history, devil worship becomes significant for certain individuals dissatisfied with existing religious institutions, and exorcism is often consequently reinstated by these institutions.

taken from this site... http://www.thesahara.net/devil.htm


so you see... the devil did not arise JUST from christian folklore... but from many different religions...

Mean while I think we have hijacked the thread about bill gates and satanism enough.

If satanism is about passing self awareness (and I can see a good arguement for this) then yes Mr Gates can be said that providing education is satanic.

Is it me or should we rename this forum conspiracy theories?