Ahem, I'm starting to tire of berating people for their appearance. Such things are only happening, I realise, because there is a distinct lack of meaningful or even remotely stimulating subject matter cropping up on these forums. I'm lashing out due to frustration =)

So, I'd like to get a bit of a gauge of people's views. Especially if they're leaning to the right. EXPOSE YOURSELVES, VERMIN.

I could call myself a social anarchist and base this on a philosophy of existentialism and collective autonomy. Capitalist society, in my opinion, is not condusive with very fundamental aspects of human 'nature' (I use the term loosely) or social functionality. Although I have to concur it is a necessary economic process in evolutionary terms - I wish more people would realise their political and social positions and speed up the process!

I do not believe there are 'good' and 'bad' people - Peter Connolly's mother is not 'evil', she is a passive victim of circumstance - guilty of little more ignorance to her own sorry existence than most professionals I've met.

I believe one of the biggest problem our society faces at the moment is a rampant and savage desire to criminalise memebers of society. Specifically the ones without a hope of defending themselves, nor to break out of whatever cycle they've got into. Drug addicts are prepared to do things to their own bodies that most of us would throw up at - does this not tell people something about the fragility of these people? Can you imagine how emotionally stunted you would have to be put a knife in someone's neck without even thinking about it? These people aren't enjoying their lives, clearly, so why do people who are comparatively well off feel so venomous towards lowlives? It baffles me, I need light to be shed on this matter.

Yet what has seemed to be the most pertinent political issue so far this year? MPs expenses? How predictable the media and public are - totally ruled by jealousy and greed, just like the fuckers who got the second homes.

Perhaps if society's focus was on having a meaningful and focused education leading on to a CAREER suited to each individual rather than earning money and reaching targets, we would get out of the cyclone of the last thirty or so years. Think about it - put all that money we put into silly defense strategies and criminalising the underclass into better training and more teachers and specialising the last three years of secondary education to career based programmes. CHOICE CHOICE CHOICE. People have the capacity to be given choices! Early on! The solutuions seem very simple to me - I think government is incredibly lazy and completely self motivated.

I've tried to be fairly provokative. I cant see myself getting many takers...

I agree with you mostly, and we need people who are passionate about society's flaws so that we can evolve... but really... you want to flag these ideas up on a site called Flirtbox?? Really?

Also, you don't believe in good or bad people, but you do believe that some of us are vermin? Haha

As for careers... I think the system is actually flexible enough to allow people to chase their dreams. The problem is that people aren't geared up to think in the way of careers... they usually have no idea until they leave uni!

Check the poem 'My Town' by Buddy Wakefield. You might like it
http://www.myspace.com/buddywakefield

Hmm... when I first joined i didn't expect a post like this here but it looks interesting, so why not? first off, let me start by saying... commie!

Nah, just kidding; it's good to see someone who knows the proper Marxist ideals. Anyway, given what's happened with our economy recently your argument has a very good point. I mean, one American bank goes down the tube and the rest are to afraid to trade with each other? and to compound the fact that wall street is really nothing more than a big gambling den in a way...

Can a person be born good or bad? probably not as you said. Their can be quite a number of things that can 'make' a person like that I would guess. They way they grew up, their role models, repression of feelings, their can be a very long list. Although, ignoring what those thugs did to her child is more than enough of a crime if you ask me... However, I do know that a person genetics may not help in this matter; the Plantagenets were quite well known for going insane or having terrible tempers.

ah, your next point I don't quite agree on; while some drug addicts are more than willing to ruin their own bodies like you some however, are pretty much forced into that position by the addictiveness of the drug. Hell, i've even heard cases of drug dealers mixing in some really addictive drugs into people's drinks and they slowly get addicted to the drug over time against without even knowing it. And while I have never been on drugs myself I can say that it would not be a simple task to kick the habit. After a while the only thing that matters is giving yourself that high, it's not the person mind but the drug.

Why do people from the upper class hate lower class people? because it makes them feel better, that's why. People from the upper class were always like, always have been and probably always will be. although, I don't know if it's completely there fault, a lot o them were brought up to be like that.

Well, as I've been able to avoid paying any taxes so far I can't really comment on that apart from it is pretty funny that one MP got caught using that money to pay for a duck house and another to pay to clean his moat.

your last argument is just wishful thinking in a way; they have to want to learn in the first place, a lot of these people don't really want to, it's much easier to continue their regular patterns than dig themselves. besides, what good would a system like that do us now? there's not enough jobs for all of the British people here, not including all the immigrants here. And the government is lazy, self centered, greedy and complete utter bastards that live in their own little fantasy worlds.

and Joey... she was being sarcastic about the bit involving vermin.

I started typing a really long and involved serious post about social responsibility, but I stopped and deleted it as I cbfa.

if any of the proper old school regulars on this site (LV & Ann-marie etc etc) would notice this lass is almost identical to me when it comes to ideas and views etc...appearance wise..she is far better looking... which doesn't come from my mouth that often

watch out flirtbox..there is now two of us

also, good and bad is made from the human psyche.. it is subjective.

I wish Greystone would come back