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09.09.2006, 08:20 quote

Anonymous

i'm sort of on this fence on this one, i don't mind goin outside for a cig anytime, i won't light up in a restaurant i don't like smoking and food. Ithink the main bother for me would be the fact you go outside for a cig.......BUT......the pub won't let you take your drink out hahaha so what do u do? put it on the window sill and stare at it to make sure it doesn't get spiked. Ithink the solution for that would be having tables outside but even then you don't want to sit on a soggy old bench when it's been raining, lol

 
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09.09.2006, 10:46 quote

Anonymous

Arcanum wrote:
If everyone who has an opinion on this subject were aware of other (allegedly) dangerous carcinogenics in everyday foodstuffs and cleaning agents, that are widely used, they would realise that tobacco is taking the fall for the world's cancer problems. I'm not saying that tobacco is not unhealthy, but if people feel so strongly on the "anti-smoking in public" side of the argument, I'd like them to be aware of other harmful substances that they inhale or ingest everyday, like carbon monoxide from car exhausts, fluoride rom tap-water, UV rays from sunlight and "safe levels" of carcinogenics in soft drinks like Coca-Cola.

My question is: Are most people SERIOUSLY worried about their long term health as a result of passive smoking? I have several sugestions which lead me to believe that they don't, but you're probably thinking that I'm a stuck-up b*st*rd who loves to hear the sound of his own voice at this stage!


I don't drink fizzy drinks, I try to avoid going out in the sun and try to stick to bottled water (when money flow allows it). I recycle, and use recycled products, as and when possible. The effects I have from car exhausts are gradual, but as an asthmatic, the effects of being in a smokey room, for me, are almost immediate.

As for you being a stuck up bastard, nah! You just have views that are important to you and would like others to be aware of. Nothing wrong with that at all

 
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09.09.2006, 11:19 quote

Anonymous

ooo look how my topic has progressed...awww lol

well here in ireland you're allowed to take your drink with you in most places. the club i go to has a roofed area with a load of couches and tables n chairs.... patio heaters, speakers so you can still hear the music inside...... infact..there are more people outside having a cig, chatting to mates/strangers and having a giggle with their pint and smokes than there is inside.

the pubs all have smoking areas out the back with seats, heaters and tables.

afterall it's only good business isn't it? who'd want to go to a pub where you had to stand outside with your brolly getting frost bite with no drink to go with your ciggie? lol. i'd stay home.

 
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09.09.2006, 11:29 quote

Anonymous

wrong place I know, but Peachy, you're new pic is absolutely gorgeous

 
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10.10.2006, 09:20 quote

Anonymous

there should be a WORLWIDE ban on smoking

even better, stop making the repulsive things then NO ONE will EVER smoke again!

 
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10.10.2006, 10:17 quote

Anonymous

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I agree with you on this.... there is by far worse out there than just fag smoke!!![/quote]


there's not MUCH worse than fag smoke!

but at least cars, and the Sun (uv rays) are a necessary evil even though they prduce harmful effects

there IS NO useful purpose of smoking. all smoking does is kill people smokers and none smokers alike.

 
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10.10.2006, 17:22 quote

Anonymous

.......and I'll take exeption to you saying cars are a luxury!

maybe in Victorian times they were but now they are a necessity!

so from now on I assume you are NEVER going to set foot in a car again, coz they are a 'luxury' you can do without?

 
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10.10.2006, 17:33 quote

Anonymous

mig29 wrote:
.......and I'll take exeption to you saying cars are a luxury!

maybe in Victorian times they were but now they are a necessity!

so from now on I assume you are NEVER going to set foot in a car again, coz they are a 'luxury' you can do without?


Unfortunately they are a necessity nowadays. You cant really do a lot of shopping in my area without one. Also most of the decent jobs are in other towns, and I've used public transport and it is useless. Go to the job center and the first thing they ask you is do you have a car, cuts down your chances to almost nil, if you don't have one.

 
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10.10.2006, 17:35 quote

Anonymous

I hate smoking, and cannot understand it at all. but not sure it is the right thing to ban it though.

 
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10.10.2006, 18:01 quote

Anonymous

spdarkhorse wrote:
Just to say, I dont think a car is necessary.


As much as I'd like to believe you, I cannot do my job without a car.

I guess though, according to some logic - that a job is not necessary.

Unfortunately, the nature of our society does not allow all of us the luxury of living within walking or cycling distance of their job. Public transport does not have 100% blanket coverage of the UK, nor does it have near enough coverage to justify walking at the other end.

For you, perhaps - a car is not necessary. But you did say "I think" so I can appreciate your opinion, but it's not broad enough.

 
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10.10.2006, 20:13 quote

Anonymous

swissrebel wrote:
spdarkhorse wrote:
Just to say, I dont think a car is necessary.


As much as I'd like to believe you, I cannot do my job without a car.

I guess though, according to some logic - that a job is not necessary.

Unfortunately, the nature of our society does not allow all of us the luxury of living within walking or cycling distance of their job. Public transport does not have 100% blanket coverage of the UK, nor does it have near enough coverage to justify walking at the other end.

For you, perhaps - a car is not necessary. But you did say "I think" so I can appreciate your opinion, but it's not broad enough.


I agree on a car does not have to be necessary, however it would take a lot of political will to make this happen.

 
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10.10.2006, 20:46 quote

Anonymous

whizzer wrote:
swissrebel wrote:
spdarkhorse wrote:
Just to say, I dont think a car is necessary.


As much as I'd like to believe you, I cannot do my job without a car.

I guess though, according to some logic - that a job is not necessary.

Unfortunately, the nature of our society does not allow all of us the luxury of living within walking or cycling distance of their job. Public transport does not have 100% blanket coverage of the UK, nor does it have near enough coverage to justify walking at the other end.

For you, perhaps - a car is not necessary. But you did say "I think" so I can appreciate your opinion, but it's not broad enough.


I agree on a car does not have to be necessary, however it would take a lot of political will to make this happen.


Realistically its unlikely, but something has to be done. I can remember when there were maybe one car per hundred households, now there are maybe 3-4 in some household. Will take more then political will, take a lot of will from the people, and that isn't going to happen.

I first went in for my test in 1973 [failed], and most of my mates wasn't interested in driving lessons. But that all changed in the 80's. Pity they didn't have a good crystal ball, something could have been done then maybe.

Seems to me if anything we all will become more reliant on cars.

 
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10.10.2006, 21:14 quote

Anonymous

Jeggea wrote:
whizzer wrote:
swissrebel wrote:
spdarkhorse wrote:
Just to say, I dont think a car is necessary.


As much as I'd like to believe you, I cannot do my job without a car.

I guess though, according to some logic - that a job is not necessary.

Unfortunately, the nature of our society does not allow all of us the luxury of living within walking or cycling distance of their job. Public transport does not have 100% blanket coverage of the UK, nor does it have near enough coverage to justify walking at the other end.

For you, perhaps - a car is not necessary. But you did say "I think" so I can appreciate your opinion, but it's not broad enough.


I agree on a car does not have to be necessary, however it would take a lot of political will to make this happen.


Realistically its unlikely, but something has to be done. I can remember when there were maybe one car per hundred households, now there are maybe 3-4 in some household. Will take more then political will, take a lot of will from the people, and that isn't going to happen.

I first went in for my test in 1973 [failed], and most of my mates wasn't interested in driving lessons. But that all changed in the 80's. Pity they didn't have a good crystal ball, something could have been done then maybe.

Seems to me if anything we all will become more reliant on cars.


Only for this lifetime. Then when the oil runs out, something interesting will happen.

Ahh well, i'm slightly curious about seeing whether electric cars will pick up, but bearing in mind this isn't remotely related to the smoking ban... Wink

 
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15.10.2006, 17:36 quote

Anonymous

Justupforfun wrote:
I do smoke but am totaly in favor of the ban. I just see it as more motivation to stop smoking. I also can't see why something so damaging and socialy irresponsible can be legal when we're not allowed to garnish a salad with magic herbs.


Agreed Juff. Plus, if if the more friendly 'persuasive' matter were used to stop people smoking in public places, chances are, I'd never be able to safely go into a pub in my lifetime 'cos that method would not work in the next 20 years and more.

 
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16.10.2006, 13:01 quote

Anonymous

I agree with the ban totally. Why should pubs, and the like have to provide a special place for drug addicts? that's all smokers are. I like a few pints, but I don't stand on the bar and piss on everyone, that's what smokers are doing with their smoke.
Tyne in Florida.

 
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