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18.02.2008, 17:52 quote

Anonymous

The term ‘messed about’ seems to crop up quite frequently on the forums (usually in the Dating, love and Love & Relationships forums, often accompanied by bitterness or recriminations). After a bit of thought (i.e. I had a nap this afternoon and when I woke up, I wondered…….) I decided that I didn’t actually know what people meant when they said ‘I’ve been messed about’.

Obviously, in many cases, we’re only hearing one side of the story too, sometimes perhaps a rather biased side of the story.

I think the most common ‘messed about’ story line on these forums seems to be where 2 people chat (online and phone), meet a couple times, and then one decides that the other person isn’t right for them, and then the rejected person feels they have been messed about. Maybe it’s a man thing - I just don’t get how that is being ‘messed around’, to me that is just one person telling another that after getting to know them a bit better, they don’t want to waste any more time on something that isn’t right for them.

Or not?

To me, being messed about is arranging a date, and the other person doesn’t turn up (or even make a phone call to say they aren’t coming).

I would love to know what others feel constitutes ‘being messed about’

 

18.02.2008, 18:08 quote

Anonymous

Ive had situations where i have been getting to know people like you say, online or on the phone everyday and then suddenly they stop contacting you and replying for like a week or more. you wonder to yourself, are they alright, have they hurt themselves or something (or i do anyway) only to find out they say they were too busy to respond. i appreciate we all get busy in life but it takes 20 seconds or so to send a text saying so??

Also, when you get to know somebody who you know likes you as much as you like them (or so you think) and they just never initiate contact and your left feeling like your doing all the running around, it doesn't exactly make you feel wanted! that feels like being messed about to me.

thats how i see being messed about, so far. I agree with what Stu said, getting to know someone only to find they arnt what you want, isnt messing somebody about, its only when you fail to let that person know that you feel that way that it becomes messing about

 

18.02.2008, 18:14 quote

Anonymous

ha ha I look forward to being 'messed about'

 

18.02.2008, 18:19 quote

Anonymous

scottie69 wrote:
its only when you fail to let that person know that you feel that way that it becomes messing about


I think sometimes when the initial ‘exploratory’ part of a relationship gets to the stage where love is part of it, and THEN someone backs out, one person might feel as if they have been used, or that the other person has misrepresented their intentions (i.e. messed about).

 

18.02.2008, 18:50 quote

Anonymous

AnnMarie think you have a point honesty is the key, no one wants to be messed around really but there are so many people happy to mess others around.

 

18.02.2008, 19:01 quote

Anonymous

stuc wrote:
AnnMarie think you have a point honesty is the key, no one wants to be messed around really but there are so many people happy to mess others around.


But. that's the whole point, everone seems to have their own definition of what being messed about is.

Take Ann-Marie's example

annmarie5988 wrote:
My interpretation of being 'messed about', is when youd o the whole chatting to someone ......... arranged to meet up ........... you get on great .......... they say all the right things ......... then suddenly decide they dont actually like you that much after all


To me, that is not being messed about. It takes time to work out whether someone is right for you. A few weeks is quite a short exploratory period (sometimes it takes months and months to really know that someone is right for you). Personally, I've met a few women with whom I got along really well with, but as time went on, I found myself disliking more things about them than I liked. On the whole, I would tend to be honest about why I don't want to see them (or see them again), but if I felt that my reasons would hurt their feelings, or perhaps even demoralise them (especially if they have 'issues'), then I might be tempted to just say something like 'we're not right for each other' and leave it at that.

 

18.02.2008, 19:36 quote

Anonymous

darkhorse57 wrote:
On the whole, I would tend to be honest about why I don't want to see them (or see them again), but if I felt that my reasons would hurt their feelings, or perhaps even demoralise them (especially if they have 'issues'), ............


A good recent(ish) example of this in my own life springs to mind, I chatted to someone a few times on the phone, everything clicked so we met up. I told her the next day that I didn't want to see her again, and just told her that I didn't think she was right for me (as I didn't want to hurt her feelings with the truth). Very bad halitosis isn't something that you pick up on whilst you're 'clicking on the phone', you know (I'm only relating this here cos she doesn't use dating sites and won't be popping in for nosey). I suppose you could apply the halitosis example to anything you wanted to. Sometimes it takes a bit longer to pick up on things - some of the things might even be psychological and take months before they're noticed. Some people reading this might think I'm shallow.

Well, she told everyone that I'd messed her about. I don't care, I don't know the people she told all that well and don't feel a need to justify myself or what I di (or didn't do). As far as I'm concerned, I tried to spare her feelings, she can think and say what she wants to. End of........

 

18.02.2008, 20:19 quote

Anonymous

Depending on the level the relationship has reached before the 'messed about' takes place, one might also consider the 3 - 6 month itch has played a part in someones decision to walk the plank - http://www.flirtbox.net/love_and_relationships/the-3-6-month-itch.html

 

18.02.2008, 20:26 quote

Anonymous

I'll tell you what really pisses me off. It's when you've been chatting to someone for a while, and you then arrange the all important first date, and you're looking foward to it... and then at the last minute they BOTTLE IT with some lame, half-arsed excuse that you just KNOW is a lie. Usually along the lines of, "Shriek! My mum/best mate/nan/dog has been rushed into hospital/killed by a bus/kidnaped by aliens.." etc etc etc etc.

That to me is being messed about.

 

18.02.2008, 21:57 quote

Anonymous

I haven't had it happen to me three times in a week, Myriad, but it has happened a good few times over the last couple of years. With mine it tends to be "My mum's been taken ill" or "My best mate's just been rushed into hospital." Oh really, F**K OFF. I'd have more respect for them if they told the truth, IE that they've bottled it, instead of making up crap lies. And you may notice, or this is how it always happens with me anyway, that they never bother actually telling you they're cancelling until YOU contact them. Usually I text them say a couple of hours before the date to make sure we're still on.. it's always THEN that they come out with the "Oh my god!" excuses. I can only assume that if I hadn't contacted them they'd not have bothered getting in touch and would be fine with me toddling off to the date only for them not to turn up. Wankers.

 

18.02.2008, 22:34 quote

Anonymous

darkhorse57 wrote:
scottie69 wrote:
its only when you fail to let that person know that you feel that way that it becomes messing about


I think sometimes when the initial ‘exploratory’ part of a relationship gets to the stage where love is part of it, and THEN someone backs out, one person might feel as if they have been used, or that the other person has misrepresented their intentions (i.e. messed about).


I felt a bit like that with one of my relationships last year, but i am still in contact with her as a friend, from time to time. At the end of the day i think she did me a favour. I was glad she was able to tell me that she didn't see any long term future in it, rather than string me along for what she could get, or drop me without a word as to why, she was considerate enough to do that.

Every time you enter into any relationship, you open yourself up to the possible disappointment of it not working out (as well as the possibility that it might!) and so if somebody tells you that they don't think its going to work out, i would tell myself to be thankful they didn't let it ride for longer and cause more disappointment and anguish when things were further down the line.

I think i am clear now in my own head as to what i think 'being messed about' entails Very Happy

These days i tend to try and give the behavior i receive, if they turn out to be inconsiderate, i just don't bother, if they want to interpret that as being messed about....so what? last time i checked consideration didn't cost nothing.

End of

 

18.02.2008, 22:52 quote

Anonymous

scottie69 wrote:
darkhorse57 wrote:
scottie69 wrote:
its only when you fail to let that person know that you feel that way that it becomes messing about


I think sometimes when the initial ‘exploratory’ part of a relationship gets to the stage where love is part of it, and THEN someone backs out, one person might feel as if they have been used, or that the other person has misrepresented their intentions (i.e. messed about).


I felt a bit like that with one of my relationships last year, but i am still in contact with her as a friend, from time to time. At the end of the day i think she did me a favour. I was glad she was able to tell me that she didn't see any long term future in it, rather than string me along for what she could get, or drop me without a word as to why, she was considerate enough to do that.

Every time you enter into any relationship, you open yourself up to the possible disappointment of it not working out (as well as the possibility that it might!) and so if somebody tells you that they don't think its going to work out, i would tell myself to be thankful they didn't let it ride for longer and cause more disappointment and anguish when things were further down the line.

I think i am clear now in my own head as to what i think 'being messed about' entails Very Happy

These days i tend to try and give the behavior i receive, if they turn out to be inconsiderate, i just don't bother, if they want to interpret that as being messed about....so what? last time i checked consideration didn't cost nothing.

End of


Ditto

Now, I just tell everyone that I'm a wild card and not too have too many expectations from me. That way no-one can accuse me of messing them around, and if something serious or long term results from a meeting, so be it. Having said that, I do make it clear that when I meet someone and see them at a more intimate level, that it is exclusive, even if I don't make promises that I can't keep.

 

19.02.2008, 11:14 quote

Anonymous

myriad wrote:
I've even waited out in the cold and rain for 1 1/2 hours because I knew they were coming from a long way


I think the technical term for that is ‘stood up’ rather than ‘messed about’. I always go to meet a new date with a backup plan in mind, so the day isn’t completely wasted if they either don’t turn up or we part ways fairly quickly. I guess I’ve been lucky, the former has never happened (yet) and the latter only once (so far).



Hmm, seems like the general feeling from the girls so far is that after chatting to someone who appears to have the similar goals, aims and expectations from a relationship, and then meeting them (perhaps even only once!), and the other person then says they’re not interested, they feel they’ve been ‘messed about’?

I suppose a reality check might include: that person hasn’t changed their mind (or lied), they still want those things – they just don’t want it with you.

I bet every woman who feels they’ve been messed about like that has done a similar thing to a guy at some point in their life, and if they say they haven’t they’re probably lying. Everybody has turned someone down at some point in their life, otherwise we wouldn’t be single now, would we?

Of course, the argument against that is going to be it was ALWAYS the other persons fault Surprised (That’s another thread in the making, why do people who have a string of failed relationships or dates always say it’s the other persons fault; the only constant in those failed relationships is the person doing all the whining).

Rules of engagement:

a) don’t have any expectations. Just because someone has the same outlook on life and relationships and what they want out of it doesn’t mean that when they meet you that they want to share it with you
b) don’t make, or expect, any promises that can’t be kept. In fact, for the first few meetings, don’t make any promises at all!
c) Everybody has a different time scale for what they want to achieve in a new relationship. It’s almost a foregone conclusion that the person you’re seeing has a different time scale, don’t push things at your pace, the word ‘compromise’ springs to mind. Vaguely related to compromise, perhaps a good thing to bear in mind is that it is easy to do things that you want to do for someone else, not so easy to do the things that the other person might actually like you to do for them.
d) love during the first 2 weeks of a new ‘relationship’ isn’t a binding seal on a contract you know! It’s just another way of finding out a bit more about your potential with that person.
e) Don’t believe anything anyone says during post-coital stage of above during that period, that way you won’t get hurt. If someone says nice things, treat it as an ego boost rather than a commitment, until the relationship reaches a point where it does look like it is going somewhere.
f) If someone says “I’ll see you/call next weekend (or whenever)” after the first date/phone chat, don’t bombard them with texts, phone calls and emails during that week – whilst it might seem like an innocuous way of showing that you’re keen what it actually says it that you might be emotionally needy (or God forbid, desperate) – scary!! (And never, ever send a text 10 minutes after the last one, saying ‘why didn’t you answer my last text’ – that’s just another nail in the coffin……)





Here endeth todays sermon.......

 

19.02.2008, 13:54 quote

Anonymous

annmarie5988 wrote:



I totally agree with what your saying Stu .............


That's a first then

annmarie5988 wrote:

........ them telling you what they think you want to hear ..........


That is just a waste of everyone's time, and I agree with you on that point. 100%. As soon as I pick up that someone is doing that to me, I'm off into the sunset on my white stallion looking for a more suitable damsel to rescue Very Happy

 

15.03.2008, 18:44 quote

Anonymous

redelicious wrote:
annmarie5988 wrote:
My interpretation of being 'messed about', is when youd o the whole chatting to someone ......... arranged to meet up ........... you get on great .......... they say all the right things ......... then suddenly decide they dont actually like you that much after all ........... or maybe that should just be called being lied to .......... but your right Stuart, it's definately a man thing



I would disagree about it being 'a man thing' as I agree with both Stu and Scottie. Ending something when all seems to be going well is being honest in my opinion. As long the person is upfront and explains that as much fun as its been the other person isn't 'the right one', then that's fine by me. It hurts if you're the one thats been turned down I'll not deny it, but far better than to have it be dragged out until it gets messy.


I've been messed about plenty of times so it's definitely not a man thing.

 
 
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