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Home >> Sports >> Beckham recalled to England squad
26.05.2007, 11:33 quote
Former captain David Beckham has been named in the England squad for the first time since the 2006 World Cup.
Coach Steve McClaren's U-turn means Beckham, 32, is set to start Friday's friendly against Brazil followed by the Euro 2008 qualifier in Estonia.
Fit-again Newcastle striker Michael Owen returns in place of Wayne Rooney, who is suspended for the Estonia game.
Reading's Nicky Shorey and David Bentley of Blackburn are also included in the 26-man squad.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/6694743.stm
good news or bad?
26.05.2007, 14:56 quote
Anybody who thinks David Beckham is still good enough for England should be taken behind a barn and shot.
12 months ago, he was a joke. Everybody was calling for him to be dropped because he was playing like shit. Now he's been recalled to the squad based on a newspaper campaign by the women and men who want to shag him. Not one serious football journalist has called for his return.
And neither have any English players, at least not publicly.
Steve McClaren should quit NOW.
27.05.2007, 17:28 quote
| Baggiebhoy wrote: |
| Anybody who thinks David Beckham is still good enough for England should be taken behind a barn and shot.
12 months ago, he was a joke. Everybody was calling for him to be dropped because he was playing like shit. Now he's been recalled to the squad based on a newspaper campaign by the women and men who want to shag him. Not one serious football journalist has called for his return. And neither have any English players, at least not publicly. Steve McClaren should quit NOW. |
And who else would you play? The current "up and commers" like Lennon have proven to be not quite ready for international level yet and Beckham has pretty much hauled Real off their arse and put them within touching distance of the title. This is the same Real side that were going to sack Capello eariler in the season. Why wasn't he sacked? 'Cause he started playing Beckham again and suddenly the team started playing well and winning games.
Sports journalists aye? What makes them so qualified to decide who to pick and who not too? Because they have better english skills than most people or because they can force their opinion across quick enough? Are these the same one's that praise Owen Hargreaves every week because he had one half decent game for England at the World Cup? 1 good game in 38 caps, must be as good as Pele then
Seriously, the fact is there's no better option for the right. Perhaps we'll get real lucky and MacClaren might relize that Gerrard and Lampard can't play in the same team too.
27.05.2007, 19:49 quote
| Hoshinosuna2 wrote: |
| And who else would you play? The current "up and commers" like Lennon have proven to be not quite ready for international level yet and Beckham has pretty much hauled Real off their arse and put them within touching distance of the title. This is the same Real side that were going to sack Capello eariler in the season. Why wasn't he sacked? 'Cause he started playing Beckham again and suddenly the team started playing well and winning games.
Sports journalists aye? What makes them so qualified to decide who to pick and who not too? Because they have better english skills than most people or because they can force their opinion across quick enough? Are these the same one's that praise Owen Hargreaves every week because he had one half decent game for England at the World Cup? 1 good game in 38 caps, must be as good as Pele then
Seriously, the fact is there's no better option for the right. Perhaps we'll get real lucky and MacClaren might relize that Gerrard and Lampard can't play in the same team too. |
I take your point that the current crop are not quite ready, but how else are they going to get ready? They need to play the games. last summer, Beckham made England look one dimensional and one paced. He walked through games and wasn't fit. BTW, Beckham has played in 3 of Real's last 11 games.
I quoted the sports journalists because many of them have been watching the game for many years, some of them have even played at the top level. They know what it takes, and they know what Beckham did last summer, which was nothing.
Gerrard and Lampard can play in the same team, its just that nobody has bothered to work with them so that they understand how the other plays. That is down to bad coaching. The simple fact is, picking Beckham is a backwards step.
Whatever options are available, dropping and then picking Beckham again was the wrong thing to do. It shows McClaren is weak minded, and now we are going to go back to the Sven era tactics. Beckham had too much influence before, and if he should actually manage to do something other than a free kick in either game, it will give him more because it will apparently show how much England need him.
28.05.2007, 09:47 quote
rubbish, Beckham HAS To be in the first team, It is a joke the current squad. Yes have youth, build them into a team of the future, but this is a MUST win game for McLaren, and beckham in the form he is will be great.
Can you imagine his crosses to crouch's head.....think before you comment people!
29.05.2007, 10:26 quote
That is all hes good for though, crosses and set pieces. He is still the same player who played badly last summer, and his time has been and gone.
And Crouch is another player who shouldn't be in the squad. But thats a whole other matter.
29.05.2007, 13:30 quote
| Baggiebhoy wrote: |
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I take your point that the current crop are not quite ready, but how else are they going to get ready? They need to play the games. last summer, Beckham made England look one dimensional and one paced. He walked through games and wasn't fit. BTW, Beckham has played in 3 of Real's last 11 games. I quoted the sports journalists because many of them have been watching the game for many years, some of them have even played at the top level. They know what it takes, and they know what Beckham did last summer, which was nothing. Gerrard and Lampard can play in the same team, its just that nobody has bothered to work with them so that they understand how the other plays. That is down to bad coaching. The simple fact is, picking Beckham is a backwards step. Whatever options are available, dropping and then picking Beckham again was the wrong thing to do. It shows McClaren is weak minded, and now we are going to go back to the Sven era tactics. Beckham had too much influence before, and if he should actually manage to do something other than a free kick in either game, it will give him more because it will apparently show how much England need him. |
Hmm good answers but here's a thought: I wonder if its entriely the players or not? I read a article in the paper the other day (normally I'd avoid such things like the plague but I was bored at work) and the author made some very interesting points. He questioned this: How experianced are English mamagers really? Italy won the World Cup under Marcello Lippi, who's won pretty much everything in the game. We're under MaCalern who's European experianced comes as a loseing UEFA cup finalist. The they brought up some figures asking, since the introduction of the Champion's League, how many English mamagers have entered a team in it? Not won but just managed a team in it? The answer is a grand total of one (the guy who managed Blackburn the year after the won the league, his name escapes me). Wonderful isn't it? The amount of european experiance our managers have comapred to their foreign counterparts is pathetic. Yet when we won the World Cup in 66 and we're one of the top teams in the world (in reality, not just in our dreams like we are now) all of our top teams competing in the European Cup were managed by Englishmen (most of the time). It's an interesting way to look at things.
My point to all that is I don't think its entirely down to the likes of wether or not we play Beckham but perhpas more down to the quality of our managers we select. After all, we could get rid of MaClaren but who we gonna replace him with, assuming we choose an Englishman? Technically, of all the current english managers, he's got the most experiance which is a frightening thing in itself.
However we have to look to the qualifing game against Estonia (bollocks to the pointless friendly against Brazil which we're obviously gonna lose)and ask will playing beckham help us to win? In my view the answer is yes. I also think either Gerrard or Lampard has to be dropped as they just don't co-exist. I'd personally play Gerrard alongside someone like Parker and if that isn't working you have the option of a player of lampards ability on the bench. Just my opinion on the matter.
29.05.2007, 17:31 quote
We could play the Albion side against Estonia and still win. But your point about managers goes into something much deeper- why are the same four clubs the only ones to qualify for the champions league? And why do not one of those four employ an English manager when there are plenty of good ones about?
We could be here a long time, and nothing will ever be done about it.
31.05.2007, 10:28 quote
My ideal England team would be:
Robinson (not great, but noone better)
G. Neville
Terry
Carragher
A. Cole (see Robinson)
Lennon
Hargreaves
Gerrard
J. Cole
Rooney
Ashton
Owen, Lampard, Ferdinand, Carson, Nolan bench.
31.05.2007, 14:45 quote
| PasleptSiekare wrote: | ||
To be fair.....that is probably the best team we possibly have.  |
Unless Owen gets fit and back on form...but that isn't a bad team really if they all played to their best, and play as a team.
03.06.2007, 15:58 quote
I said Gary Neville for his consistency. I have seen Micah Richards play a few times and he has always seemed a bit inconsistent to me. But thats down to personal viewpoints.
I think we could interchange Lennon with David Bently. I think that they would both be pretty useful players, and would contribute more than a free kick.
A lot of people seem to have forgotten about Dean Ashton since his injury, but he has remained in my mind. I know Owen is probably techinically better, but I think Ashton has the kind of footballing brain that Sheringham had at his peak, and a partnership with him and Rooney could work quite well.
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