Jeggae -- We are all each and every one of us *Beautiful* in one way or another!!

you never know.........

[Women just don't fancy me because I am so ugly!]

Well greystone i've said it before and i'll say it again.....
You are presumably on here to hopefully meet a female?
I am a female and I have told you umpteen times that I think you are very good looking!
Even men have tried to reassure of that too.
You don't listen.
So, maybe when you approach ladies they notice that you are not listening to a word they say, and are missing cues from them?
Personally anyone who talks AT me gets short shrift from me.
I know my mobile phone number off by heart backwards (starting after the 07) and on the rare occasion a chap has chatted me up in the street etc and is quite clearly so far up his own bottom with his spiel that i give him a false number because i dont want to be rude and tell him to take a hike.
Methinks my love that until you start listening to and believing what people say to you, you dont stand a snowflakes chance in hell of 'meeting the right lady'. Until then you wont get lucky cuz you'll be too busy saying and doing all the stuff you've 'learned'.

Ok, and correct me if i'm wrong here but Greystone, how many posts does Rocketgirl have to make before you finally get the message that she thinks you're good looking. Now if someone kept saying that to me for as long as she has to you i'd been PM-ing that person by now and arranging to meet!!!!!

Nice pic Rocketgirl!!! you're lurvly.

'Pickup community' sounds like a hobby, it has an air of desperation which (I can only imagine) any woman worth knowing would pick up on.
The chances are that when you meet the woman of your dreams, it will be at the time you expect it the least, you just can't schedule a time an place to get yourself a woman like a caveman.
Pickup lines are for TV, I don't think that stuff really works in real life so much.
The best thing to do is just forget worrying about meeting women or scaring them off, but just relax and stop reading those books about picking up women, they are about as corny as the Jerry Springer Show...........

I think there is a difference between pick up lines and pick routines.... but, both - from what i've read about the seduction community - pretty much amount to the same thing: talking AT a 'target' in the hope of getting the desired response - phone number, date etc.
Pick up Lines are just that - "Hi I just wanted to say I think you have lovely eyes" or whatever specific words.
A pick up routine however relies on the gamer being able to choose his own 'lines' eg picks a subject to talk about - the weather, her dress, the location (disco: Isn't this song great?).
But I am sure Greystone can expand on and correct that.

I'm sure that I can't be the only person who cringes at the thought of someone using a pickup routine, let alone actually witnessing it?

"The best thing to do is just forget worrying about meeting women or scaring them off, but just relax and stop reading those books about picking up women",

I agree. Years ago there was this guy who i think spent every waking hour down at the railway station train spotting - for about 20 yrs i was told. Then one day they got a new *female* train guard....and about 6 weeks later they got married! I'm also told that now he still spends all his waking hours down at the railway station, with the kids, while his wife works.
And he was *not* looking to meet anyone, just enjoying his hobby of trainspotting.

Natural seems to work above and beyond artificial routines and lines.

Bexbex - Have you heard of a book called "Games People Play" by Dr Eric Berne? Basically he says (in the 1950s I think) that life is a game, and some people fall into certain catagories. Two 'games' that come to mind are "Ain't It Awful" and "Yes, but...."
Methinks Greystone plays by the rules.....But hey each to his own, live and let live is what I say.....
PS thanks for the compliment

BexBex wrote:

Ok, and correct me if i'm wrong here but Greystone, how many posts does Rocketgirl have to make before you finally get the message that she thinks you're good looking. Now if someone kept saying that to me for as long as she has to you i'd been PM-ing that person by now and arranging to meet!!!!! Nice pic Rocketgirl!!! you're lurvly.

"By the way I used to have a flat and occasionally work in the form of government schemes but still couldn't get a woman. It was for this reason that I moved to London to increase my chances of meeting more women."

Good grief! Please tell me that you did not *choose* to become homeless, just to meet women?