Stonecastle: I hear ya brother,... only in my case, I really am far too shy to just "chat-up" girls.
My only hope is that I get to know them really well and they make a move on me. It happens, but not very often. (mostly because I just get to know girls really really well, less and less these days).

I guess I'm just far too cautious, I only like girls I know well, and there is quite a risk trying to start a romance with a friend or colleague.

If you are rejected,... well you feel like a prat and it's really awakward, and you may have jeopordised a friendship.

I guess us shy people are just buggered,... we are a "genetic cull-de-sac"

I suppose I could try getting drunk and touching girls up in the laundrette,.... but somehow I have the feeling that it will end in tears,... specifically: Mine, caused by mace in my eyes.

Scottie & Red