Scot I think it's a bit harsh to call this date an out and out liar; if she's a size 18/20 then she's probably had a LOT of shit from guys about this and was feeling insecure, wanting to maximize her chances etc. She obviously liked you enough that she hoped you'd like her enough to not be bothered. (If that makes sense!).

I know though she hasn't done herself any favours, now probably feels shit cos she's guessed you were put off, in person, by her size.

Don't ever underestimate however how crap blokes can make us feel about physical stuff, the aftershock from a single comment can last years for some women, they get seriously psychologically screwed up by it.

I'm an 18 and as far as I am concerned, I am normal and average.




And bollocks to anyone who thinks Im a fatty monster.

Sorry I would reply to you, but Im not skinny enough

This is a v interesting debate!

Yeah agreed ScotinC has shown full on respect to this woman. I do think though that as far as 'dishonesty' goes, in this context, there's a difference between cynical dishonesty and just, kind of, not telling the exact truth, with the intention of saving yourself emotional hurt (and the added intention of hopefully making something lovely with someone) (a baby, for example!). Scot's date didn't lie cynically at least I very much doubt she did.

Anyway it sounds like this woman had a lovely time so it's all good

(Intrigued however by how she "tried to kiss" you...did you dodge it at the last second and run for the bus?!)