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06.10.2006, 19:03 quote

Anonymous

scarlet66 wrote:
afi rock, . no suck thing as goth music , the word goth is so stupid , no such word .....only loosers use that word , its offensive


Yes, there is. It is a reconised music genre. That's like saying there's no such thing as rock music.

It's short for gothic, which is in the dictionary. Goth is actually in the dictionary:

"Goth
1: A style of rock music that often evokes bleak, lugubrious imagery.
2: A performer or follower of this style of music. "


Tell the people who write the dictionary it's offensive. Rolling Eyes

 
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06.11.2006, 02:05 quote

Anonymous

As for Indie Rock, Franz Ferdinand is awesome! theres a new band from Canada called Stars, which is our Indie! As for Gothic I thought might add etherial, ambient music as well. Love Spirals Downwards, Perfume Tree, Delerium, Lycia, Mira,Faith and the Muse and Kate Bush

 
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06.01.2007, 18:21 quote

Anonymous

pirakkanaama wrote:
just thought id bring back an old thread cus im researching goths Razz anyway says that gothic music is like rock but CANNOT be like violent and stuff like that



If your reasearching the origins of Gothic music you might like to get hold of a copy of 'The Dark Reign of Gothic Rock' by Dave Thompson (ISDN 1-900924-48-x_ - I'm sure your local library could order it.

Just one question, why can't Goth be violent?

 
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06.01.2007, 18:31 quote

Anonymous

pirakkanaama wrote:
whizzer wrote:
pirakkanaama wrote:
just thought id bring back an old thread cus im researching goths Razz anyway says that gothic music is like rock but CANNOT be like violent and stuff like that



If your reasearching the origins of Gothic music you might like to get hold of a copy of 'The Dark Reign of Gothic Rock' by Dave Thompson (ISDN 1-900924-48-x_ - I'm sure your local library could order it.

Just one question, why can't Goth be violent?


i dont know to be honest but its something like goths are NOT violent and the style and such origanted from the music or something, i watched it on a youtube video and ill try to find it


It would be very hard to say that, goth was born from the punk movement, and you would be very hard pressed to say that they weren't violent.

 
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06.01.2007, 18:44 quote

Anonymous

pirakkanaama wrote:
watch this video and it will explain

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7QiniJXipA

and im researching goths for 2 reasons

1. when i hear something i dont know much about no matter how boring i will try to find out every possible thing about it.

2.i was a mini goth when i was lil


you might want to look here for an inside view.

 
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17.01.2007, 03:31 quote

Anonymous

whizzer wrote:
Cool, death metal is death metal for a reason.
Originally it was a musical movement that came out of the ashes of punk (some will say punk never died, but that's a different topic...). This seriously predates 'death metal' (or doom metal or thrash metal for that matter).

I think it is a lot about using music and lyrics to create an atmosphere, usually leaning towards the dark (usually emotions of not having, not being able to achieve or general decay).

Just for the record i consider the following to be goth bands:
Bauhaus
Sisters Of Mercy
Siouxsie and the Banshees
The Cure
Fields of the Nephilem
The Mission
Joy Division
Cocteau Twins

Boaderline goth bands:
Jesus and Mary Chain
Nick Cave
Mazza Manson (am seriously on the fence about this, but his cover of sweet dreams does sway me a lot)

I think you can see why I mention my age as colouring my judgement on what goth music is.

It appears (to me) that there is a tribe of kiddie goths (you'll spot them around notts easily) which is comprised of all 'heavier' music types (heavy, death, doom, speed, thrash and black metal, indutrial, 'indie') without really looking at what the label means historically - personally I think they have just followed a US based lead and have not used their critical facilites to determine what they truely are.

The old adage holds that is someone describes themselves as 'goth' then they are not (any true 'goth' would distain any label, being an individual and all Wink)

Wx

this is really going to show my age but i agree with u Whizz - with one exception. There's no way The Cure are goth. Amazing yes but i would call them Alternative (an alternative to music my dad would say)

 
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17.01.2007, 19:26 quote

Anonymous

angelsarah wrote:
whizzer wrote:
Cool, death metal is death metal for a reason.
Originally it was a musical movement that came out of the ashes of punk (some will say punk never died, but that's a different topic...). This seriously predates 'death metal' (or doom metal or thrash metal for that matter).

I think it is a lot about using music and lyrics to create an atmosphere, usually leaning towards the dark (usually emotions of not having, not being able to achieve or general decay).

Just for the record i consider the following to be goth bands:
Bauhaus
Sisters Of Mercy
Siouxsie and the Banshees
The Cure
Fields of the Nephilem
The Mission
Joy Division
Cocteau Twins

Boaderline goth bands:
Jesus and Mary Chain
Nick Cave
Mazza Manson (am seriously on the fence about this, but his cover of sweet dreams does sway me a lot)

I think you can see why I mention my age as colouring my judgement on what goth music is.

It appears (to me) that there is a tribe of kiddie goths (you'll spot them around notts easily) which is comprised of all 'heavier' music types (heavy, death, doom, speed, thrash and black metal, indutrial, 'indie') without really looking at what the label means historically - personally I think they have just followed a US based lead and have not used their critical facilites to determine what they truely are.

The old adage holds that is someone describes themselves as 'goth' then they are not (any true 'goth' would distain any label, being an individual and all Wink)

Wx

this is really going to show my age but i agree with u Whizz - with one exception. There's no way The Cure are goth. Amazing yes but i would call them Alternative (an alternative to music my dad would say)



Given that no band decided to call themselves goth and it was a label applied by the music press we have to accept that the cure are goth...

 
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19.01.2007, 03:18 quote

Anonymous

whizzer wrote:
angelsarah wrote:
whizzer wrote:
Cool, death metal is death metal for a reason.
Originally it was a musical movement that came out of the ashes of punk (some will say punk never died, but that's a different topic...). This seriously predates 'death metal' (or doom metal or thrash metal for that matter).

I think it is a lot about using music and lyrics to create an atmosphere, usually leaning towards the dark (usually emotions of not having, not being able to achieve or general decay).

Just for the record i consider the following to be goth bands:
Bauhaus
Sisters Of Mercy
Siouxsie and the Banshees
The Cure
Fields of the Nephilem
The Mission
Joy Division
Cocteau Twins

Boaderline goth bands:
Jesus and Mary Chain
Nick Cave
Mazza Manson (am seriously on the fence about this, but his cover of sweet dreams does sway me a lot)

I think you can see why I mention my age as colouring my judgement on what goth music is.

It appears (to me) that there is a tribe of kiddie goths (you'll spot them around notts easily) which is comprised of all 'heavier' music types (heavy, death, doom, speed, thrash and black metal, indutrial, 'indie') without really looking at what the label means historically - personally I think they have just followed a US based lead and have not used their critical facilites to determine what they truely are.

The old adage holds that is someone describes themselves as 'goth' then they are not (any true 'goth' would distain any label, being an individual and all Wink)

Wx

this is really going to show my age but i agree with u Whizz - with one exception. There's no way The Cure are goth. Amazing yes but i would call them Alternative (an alternative to music my dad would say)



Given that no band decided to call themselves goth and it was a label applied by the music press we have to accept that the cure are goth...

i still don't see it. The Cult were defo goth

 
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19.01.2007, 18:09 quote

Anonymous

angelsarah wrote:
whizzer wrote:



Given that no band decided to call themselves goth and it was a label applied by the music press we have to accept that the cure are goth...

i still don't see it. The Cult were defo goth



Southern Death Cult definately, the Cult hmmm...

 
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19.01.2007, 18:13 quote

Anonymous

whizzer wrote:
angelsarah wrote:
whizzer wrote:



Given that no band decided to call themselves goth and it was a label applied by the music press we have to accept that the cure are goth...

i still don't see it. The Cult were defo goth



Southern Death Cult definately, the Cult hmmm...

Ian Asbury defo had the "look". boring as fcuk live tho. every move he made was obviously choreographed

 
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19.01.2007, 18:17 quote

Anonymous

Well he's a scouser...

But i did see them at Leeds last year which was rather enjoyable - he gave a nice shout out to his Bradford roots Smile

 
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19.01.2007, 19:16 quote

Anonymous

whizzer wrote:
Well he's a scouser...

But i did see them at Leeds last year which was rather enjoyable - he gave a nice shout out to his Bradford roots Smile

really! well maybe he's changed. this was in the 80's when they opened for billy idol. now HE put on a great show!

 
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21.01.2007, 21:14 quote

Anonymous

angelsarah wrote:
whizzer wrote:
Well he's a scouser...

But i did see them at Leeds last year which was rather enjoyable - he gave a nice shout out to his Bradford roots Smile

really! well maybe he's changed. this was in the 80's when they opened for billy idol. now HE put on a great show!


I never said it was a good show, but it was an enjoyable enough diversion.

 
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06.02.2007, 14:46 quote

Anonymous

 
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03.04.2007, 23:40 quote

Anonymous

When it all started in the mid 80's it was band such as these that created the goth movement .the mission sisters of mercy , Feilds of the nephilim Bauhause, virgin prunes ,Siouxsie And The Banshees and many of the members of these bands become other bands as they do now but the ones listed were the most influental of the early gothic movement Also bands like kraftwork , As for bands now calling them selves goth well times change music evolves . But the goth movement of the 80's Also had its roots in punk .

 
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