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08.02.2008, 21:40 quote

samenoname
samenoname Joined: 20 Jan 2008 Posts: 448 Location: United Kingdom, England, Devon
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We had the California Redemption Value in the state where you pay a deposit on glass bottles and aluminum cans in order to increase recycling rates. It worked. Nothing like that here and every damn thursday morning at 6 i can hear the garbage men outside my window crushing, what seems like, a ton of glass and making a racket you can hear for blocks. Maybe i am jsut a light sleeper.....

 

08.02.2008, 22:14 quote

Anonymous

I might be wrong, but I thought that this did happen up until the 1970's in this country? It makes sense to me, I don't know why we don't have it here. There is not enough recycling (of anything recycleable) going on in this country, and some areas are beginning to panic because landfill is becoming full, and some places are shipping plastic over to china because it is cheaper to recycle it over there than here......all very bizarre and not terribly effective in the long-term I dont think.

(When my granddad was a kid - in about 1910 - he used to pay the cinema usher glass jam jars to watch the films from behind the screen!)

Why don't we have Deposit & Return in the UK, does anybody know?

 

08.02.2008, 22:17 quote

Anonymous

Oooops, I didnt answer the question! Embarassed

Well, I don't buy beer, but I would be happier paying a deposit on any recycleable product if I thought it was going to actually help.

 

08.02.2008, 22:19 quote

Anonymous

clemelpol wrote:


Why don't we have Deposit & Return in the UK, does anybody know?


I'm sure we used to. I know where I grew up (in Africa) we had a system like that too, and Germany has very efficient recycling and glas-deposit schemes.

I think in many countires the deposit on glass bottles died out when plastic containers became the norm.

 

08.02.2008, 22:26 quote

Anonymous

Yeah, it irks me that the milkman brings the milk in 2 litre plastic bottles (where's my pinta??!!) - the plastic bottles, IF and only IF I put it out for recycling, gets sent off (and in some places, shipped off to china) where it is shredded and washed and god knows what else and made into fleece jackets - now, where's the sense in that? That means for every plastic milk bottle that is recycled into a jacket, one new plastic bottle has to be made.....Before, the milkman brought me a glass pint bottle, I gave it back to him and he took it away and it was washed and sterilized and given back to me with more milk in.....Where is the logic today, or am I missing something?

 

08.02.2008, 22:31 quote

Anonymous

clemelpol wrote:
where it is shredded and washed and god knows what else and made into fleece jackets - now, where's the sense in that?


I had some of those Patagonia fleeces (and long johns Very Happy ), they quite comfy. Actually, I don't they use the plastic milk containers for those though, I think they use the soft drink bottles, something to do with the different kind of plastic, but I'm not 100% certain.

 

09.02.2008, 09:37 quote

toby

In Germany there have always been returnable bottles ("Pfandflaschen") as far as I can remember. A couple of years ago they have added a deposit on cans as well.

I used to earn money this way when I was a child - by returning bottles.

But compared to the UK, it is different here.

In the UK people either buy squash in plastic bottles and only buy one or two at a time....or they buy juice in tetrapacks.

In Germany, squash does not exist - only without any water, juice powder (but nobody buys it) and usually people buy drinks and juices in bottles - and they are sold in boxes of 6-12 bottles (or 24 for beer) (although tetrapacks are also quite common).

So when a typical family goes shopping here, they buy 1 or 2 boxes at once....so the deposit is high enough that people do return them - apart from that empty boxes would take up too much space and people are glad to get rid of them again when they are empty...or rather swap them for new ones again.

The deposit is 0,15 € per bottle and 3,50 € per box.






 

09.02.2008, 10:07 quote

samenoname
samenoname Joined: 20 Jan 2008 Posts: 448 Location: United Kingdom, England, Devon
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Most states in the US, at least the ones that i have lived in, all have dedicated recycling centers for all manner of glass, colored or white, any colored or clear plastic bottles, jars and tin cans of all kinds. These places are spread all over the place and are used by the public. Most can be found in the supermarket parking lot where the attendant weighs the stuff and gives you a ticket to redeem at the grocery store.

 

23.02.2008, 13:20 quote

kayjaydub
kayjaydub Joined: 27 Sep 2007 Posts: 3 Location: United Kingdom, England, Wiltshire
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To answer the question - in a word NO! Beer isn't just for breakfast its for life.

 

02.03.2008, 11:02 quote

samenoname
samenoname Joined: 20 Jan 2008 Posts: 448 Location: United Kingdom, England, Devon
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I thought about getting a bill sponsored or at least at some exploratory surgery on the matter. I did some convassing to gt peoples views and they sem to like the idea but i have to get the language right and that is beyond my scope of the english language.
I am a linguistics major and not a lawyer although i am able to enlist the help of a para legal so i might explore that.

 

02.07.2008, 20:54 quote

avarose33
avarose33 Joined: 01 Jul 2008 Posts: 2 Location: Canada, Nova Scotia, Dartmouth
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Up in Canada we have a bottle deposit, and it's no big deal to me. I just collect my bottles over the course of a couple weeks (I drink a lot of Pepsi, so it fills up very quickly) and drop them off for a couple of bucks gas money. We have a lot of recycling up here, I hate sorting through all the bags, but I know it's worth it environmental-wise. Sometimes it works to your advantage big time- after my birthday party, i collected 40 dollars from all the bottles people left behind! That's what I call recycling.

 

02.07.2008, 21:11 quote

rocketgirl
rocketgirl Joined: 17 Jun 2008 Posts: 1914 Location: United Kingdom, England, Hampshire
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Where I live we get given a huge bin to put paper, food tins and plastic bottles. Once every 2 weeks the men come and collect/empty my bin.
Woe betide me if they find any of this stuff in my 'normal' bin, or vice versa, in fact I could be fined! They don't pay me for this, I have to pay my local council in fact via local taxes for them to take it away.
I have to save up the glass bottles and take them to the municipal tip myself, again I could be fined if I put glass out with the 'normal' rubbish.
Lucky you to get paid for recycling - I get charged via local taxes so I can recycle, and could be fined if I don't recycle!

 
 
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