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01.06.2006, 23:42 quote

Nyreen
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I wonder where AIDS really came from? Confused

 

01.06.2006, 23:46 quote

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Nyreen wrote:
I wonder where AIDS really came from? Confused

i think www.google.com will help you on your way Smile
some links to you, if u cant find urself Razz
http://www.google.com/search?hl=et&q=aids&lr=
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04.06.2006, 12:51 quote

Anonymous

The WHO (World Health Organisation) publishes the "recorded" prevalence of AIDS throughout the world. Obviously if you are looking for the location of the initial outbreak, one would examine early records of WHO statistics to find out where the explosion started. The last time I looked (a while ago now) there was an extreme situation in Sub-Saharan Africa. I guess this means anywhere below the Sahara which would go all the way down to South Africa. I believe that this has expanded to Asia and parts of Southern America.

The predicted expansion of the disease has really not taken place in Europe. There may be many reasons for this.

1. When people die of AIDS, AIDS is not the cause. It is usually some other disease like pneumonia or Kaposis Sarcoma (a form of cancer), sometimes even suicide.

2. Infection of HIV is really what is being measured, and even then statistics are vague.

3. In the employed population in the UK I would be surprised if 0.1% per annum contracted full blown AIDS, which is lower than the chances of being killed in a road accident.

4. Statistics regarding the unemployed in the UK are vague and non-existent as most people are not unemployed, they are just economically inactive. Therefore, they do not get classified adequately anywhere in published Government statistics.

The following link might give you some information.

http://www3.who.int/whosis/links/diseases_links.cfm?path=whosis,diseases_links&language=english

 

04.06.2006, 13:41 quote

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Nyreen wrote:
I wonder where AIDS really came from? Confused


here u go i looked it up Laughing coz im bored pmsl

The AIDS virus was first discovered around year 1980 in the United States. A group of young gay men and also some drug users; were getting ill often, and there was no trace of the disease that they were suffering from. Most of the diseases they were falling prey of were related to the immune system. As it was not known that how much time the disease takes to surface? And how the disease spreads? The virus of AIDS found new home for itself from one man to another in the same group and also those who came in sexual contact or used the same syringe which was used by infected person. After some months, people from the group began to die, the diseases which killed all those people, were some of the common diseases which affects human at much extent if they have a damaged immune system. The T cells, also known as CD4 cells which help human body in fighting with the diseases were found damaged and there level was lowered in the patients suffering from the mysterious disease. It was outbreak of the new disease and it was identified and named AIDS (Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome) in 1981. Doctors started research in order to find out the possible causes of the disease. First, it was not known whether AIDS was caused by viral infection or something else until two doctors Luc Montagnier and Robert Gallo found the virus causing AIDS. The virus was named Human Immunodeficiency Virus (HIV).

 

10.07.2006, 10:31 quote

sarge55

ever heard of "THE GLOBAL 200 REPORT TO THE PRESIDENT, A BLUEPRINT FOR GENOCIDE"?
a study was dont by Cyrus Vance, jimmy Carters secratary of state back in '76.
it was to see what the worlds population would be come the yr 2000 and how the planet would be coping. Basicly it states that for the planet to survive, the worlds population has to be reduced by 2/3s by any means neccessary.
http://www.geocities.com/lord_visionary/global2000report.htm
http://www.seanscreenplays.com/BeteNoireCD/Articles1/CLUB%20OF%20ROME.htm

http://educate-yourself.org/nwo/nwopopcontrol.shtml

http://www.geocities.com/lord_visionary/popcontrolagenda.htm

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/aidsblackgenocide21oct04.shtml
http://www.whale.to/a/nkuba.htm
http://franklaughter.web.aplus.net/bin/header/kihura.html

also do some research into a Dr Boyd Graves re aids.
http://www.stewartsynopsis.com/boyd_ed_graves.htm
http://www.rense.com/general13/inve.htm

 

10.07.2006, 10:45 quote

Anonymous

Its been widely suggested that AIDS was a test virus used in monkeys. And then became part of the gay community, which has now been passed further. The only reason gay people are at a higher risk is because its passed through blood, and the blood vessels with the anus are more easily damaged during sex, so the blood can pass down the penis.

And you dont actually usually die of AIDS, AIDS weakens the immune system, so usually flu, or a general cold kills you.

 

02.08.2006, 13:43 quote

Nyreen
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[quote="Sarge55"]ever heard of "THE GLOBAL 200 REPORT TO THE PRESIDENT, A BLUEPRINT FOR GENOCIDE"?
a study was dont by Cyrus Vance, jimmy Carters secratary of state back in '76.
it was to see what the worlds population would be come the yr 2000 and how the planet would be coping. Basicly it states that for the planet to survive, the worlds population has to be reduced by 2/3s by any means neccessary.


Thank you very much. Finally the nail has been hit on the head. There goes my retorical question! Just the answer I was digging for, but lacked the relevant sources. Much appreciated. Are you a lecturer?

 

02.08.2006, 17:53 quote

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[quote="Nyreen"]

Sarge55 wrote:
Are you a lecturer?


LOL , I asked him the same question last week!
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02.08.2006, 20:32 quote

sarge55

[quote="Kalamity"]

Nyreen wrote:
Sarge55 wrote:
Are you a lecturer?


LOL , I asked him the same question last week!


Me a lecturer, hell no, just a skeptical-cynic trying to spread the word.......

Laughing

 

03.08.2006, 16:50 quote

Anonymous

[quote="Sarge55"]

Kalamity wrote:
Nyreen wrote:
Sarge55 wrote:
Are you a lecturer?


LOL , I asked him the same question last week!


Me a lecturer, hell no, just a skeptical-cynic trying to spread the word.......

Laughing


I think I might use conspiracy theorist...

but one mans conspiracy theorist, another mans evangelical skeptical-cynic or some such Wink







fnord

 

03.08.2006, 20:02 quote

sarge55

Tis only a conspiracy theory till it becomes a fact.......

how about the case of Dr Sam Chachoua?

Dr. Sam Chachoua defeats Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in an American Federal Court. The jury awarded this Australian doctor over $10,000,000 in damages after hearing of the conspiracy to suppress and destroy him and his new field of medicine described as promising to be "THE MOST EFFECTIVE THERAPY AGAINST CANCER AND AIDS IN HISTORY." NBC NEWS (AUGUST, 2000)
http://www.explorepub.com/articles/sam_chachoua.html



Shattering the Myth of Incurable Disease with Induced Remission Therapy (IRT)

The Birth of a New Medical Science in the Healing of Cancer, AIDS & Other Terminal Conditions.

Cutting Edge Advances in Vaccines and Supplements with Unprecedented Efficacy Against Cancer and AIDS.

X-ray Proven Shrinkage of Cancer within Days

Restoration of Immune Competence & Viral Elimination.
http://www.nexusmagazine.com/chachoua/chachoua.html




INDUCED REMISSION THERAPY
Our Best Hope Against Cancer?
Part 1
Dr Sam Chachoua has developed a safe, effective vaccine for healing cancer, AIDS and other terminal illnesses, but medical authorities continue to ignore his work and try to prevent his treatments from becoming widely known.
http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/irt1.html


INDUCED REMISSION THERAPY
Our Best Hope Against Cancer?
Part 2
Dr Sam Chachoua has identified 'nemesis organisms' that can control and even cure diseases such as cancer and AIDS, but his therapies have been largely ignored by the medical establishment.
http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/irt2.html







The Truth Will Set You Free

We're not very big on the so-called "conspiracy" theories surrounding the suppression of medical breakthroughs. Conspiracies, by their very nature, are impossible to prove. Rather than run the illusive gamut of trying to prove that this group did this for that reason or that group did that for this reason, let us begin at a point of no contention at all.

http://www.mnwelldir.org/docs/editorial/cancer_cure.htm

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http://www.explorepub.com/articles/chachoua_10_2.html

 

04.08.2006, 10:09 quote

Anonymous

Nyreen wrote:
I wonder where AIDS really came from? Confused


I wonder what comes after we have found a CURE for aids..... seems there are a hell of a lot more diseases and viruses and wars and natural disasters then i remember growing up. perhaps tis time we were all wiped out. the equivalent to the great flood hmmmm.

now THERE'S a thought!

 

06.08.2006, 07:19 quote

Anonymous

There's too many of us on this planet all ready (we need a good fcuk off world war to thin us out a bit), mother nature will always come up with something to keep the population down & I think AIDS is just one of them, I find it quite ironic though that it's passed onto one another through the act of generating new life, But as we try to keep on finding cures for diseases that help us live longer & increase the world population so there's even more imbalance & keep mutated genectic strains which would disappear through natural selection we will ultimately all suffer in the long run, You defy a natural process which has taken millions of years of fine tuning your going to get kick backs, we are just animals at the end of the day with a 2% difference of DNA to that of a chimp, & thats alot to answer for.. when were all gone because we are not destined to be here forever, this ball of rock will still be spinning in space.

 

12.08.2006, 23:59 quote

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HIV was originally designed in the U.S. by our government for the sake of biochemical warfare and to rid the world of the "useless eaters". It took nearly ten years to design it and test it by injecting it into chimps. Some of those chimps were let loose back into the wilds of Africa........the virus mutated with the DNA of the chimps which is why media reports there are viruses similar to HIV that have been around from the 1950's. However....what they don't tell you is, the similar characteristics are only those that are found in chimps as well as other diseases they carry.

Chimps were used because the DNA of a chimp is about 97% identical to that of a human. Therefore, they were the most optimal "lab rat" for the experiment. Other experiments such as the "gay hepatitis vaccine" were carried out in Manhatten and San Francisco, on gay healthy men. Some time later, all of those men were diagnosed with HIV with the same progressing stages. These men were verified completely healthy before the special "gay hepatitis" vaccines.


There was also another outbreak of HIV in Africa after U.S. troops were sent to dispense polio vaccines.......or maybe it was chicken pox.....I don't remember....in those same areas.
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25.08.2006, 11:56 quote

Nyreen
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Alabaster wrote:
HIV was originally designed in the U.S. by our government for the sake of biochemical warfare and to rid the world of the "useless eaters". It took nearly ten years to design it and test it by injecting it into chimps. Some of those chimps were let loose back into the wilds of Africa........the virus mutated with the DNA of the chimps which is why media reports there are viruses similar to HIV that have been around from the 1950's. However....what they don't tell you is, the similar characteristics are only those that are found in chimps as well as other diseases they carry.

Chimps were used because the DNA of a chimp is about 97% identical to that of a human. Therefore, they were the most optimal "lab rat" for the experiment. Other experiments such as the "gay hepatitis vaccine" were carried out in Manhatten and San Francisco, on gay healthy men. Some time later, all of those men were diagnosed with HIV with the same progressing stages. These men were verified completely healthy before the special "gay hepatitis" vaccines.


There was also another outbreak of HIV in Africa after U.S. troops were sent to dispense polio vaccines.......or maybe it was chicken pox.....I don't remember....in those same areas.




That answered my question.....it's just a shame that the rest of the world still remain clueless about their 'so called' world

 
 
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