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Home >> World-issues >> The USA "world police" has arrested Gary Kaplan
31.03.2007, 17:56 quote
Gary Kaplan, the founder of BetOnSports.com, has been arrested in the USA as they have a law against gambling there in most states.
The weird thing about it: Gary Kaplan was not even in the USA - he was in the Dominican Republic on holiday! The USA asked the people there to arrest him and to send him to the USA so that they could arrest him.
Last year, David Carruthers, the boss from BetOnSports was arrested last summer on a holiday trip to Costa Rica - as they made the plane stop over in Dallas!
BetOnSports has started to refuse accepting players from the USA - but they are after the taxes! They want to have billions of taxes from him.
What I dont understand:
1. Why does the USA care about it?
2. Why are the haunting down online gambling managers all over the globe but do nothing about the really nasty porn(?) sites hosted in the USA?
3. Who gives the USA the right to arrest people outside the USA?
4. Even if someone made money though an illegal activity in a country, usually he/she would have to pay back the money to the customers. So there is no revenue afterwards and nothing to tax. So either it is illegal or you tax it. If you declare it as illegal but tax it at the same time, the USA also profits from "illegal activities".
| Quote: |
| The WTO said the US could only continue to block such websites if its laws were equally applied to US firms that offer off-track betting on horse racing. The US government argues it simply wants to limit gambling, however, overseas companies claim the US move is simply protectionism and means to remove foreign competition. |
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6512699.stm
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| Antigua & Barbuda had previously taken the US to the World Trade Organisation on the grounds that, by barring its citizens from gambling online the US was in violation of WTO rules.
It won the case but the US has appealed. |
http://www.bbc.co.uk/caribbean/news/story/2006/07/060719_antiguagambling.shtml
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/87704
Is it politically correct to say the USA is governed by a bunch of idiots? No matter whether it is "war against terrorism", "war against gambling" or starting wars for no reason.......nothing against Americans - just against Bush, the other war criminals and ex-alcoholics with an IQ below room temperature...that concentrate on the most ridiculous and naiive laws but do nothing about poverty or the educational system or weapons in their own country.
Everything they do is contradictory and never logical....
Why don't they just arrest all USA citizens who have ever been to Las Vegas on holiday?
Wasn't the USA supposed to a be a new and free country for all the people from "Old Europe" who went there some hundred years ago?
But where did it lead to? One of the strictest countries, with no freedom at all and no predictability of legal decisions or legal security whatsoever.
No free education, low speed limits, no nudity, no drinking....no privacy, no data protection, lots of restrictions because of the "danger of terrorism"
- the only freedeom that exists there is the dubious freedom of running around with weapons.
01.04.2007, 01:45 quote
wow every time I come on now you all are on the bandwagon about something us americans do....hmmmm maybe i should find some american friends and some juicy tidbits on blair and his nonsense...true there are alot of things that really annoy me here in the us, especially the school system, the health system and all our young people being killed in a wars that we should be out of by now......but if a cuntry has nothing to do with the way I live, sure am not gonna bash them all the time for something i have read on the net or papers......sorry my opinion
01.04.2007, 01:59 quote
[quote="lostsuthernbelle"]wow every time I come on now you all are on the bandwagon about something us americans do....
NO WE HAVE A LOT OF OPINIONS ABOUT LOADS OF THINGS ...like you have on moon shine, not just the Americans ???
01.04.2007, 07:48 quote
If something annoys me, I write about, no matter whether it is the US government, the government of my own country or of any other country.
I am not a partiot myself and whatever someone says about (one of) my countries, I will always try to look at what someone says and I am not shutting down because my feelings are hurt as someone said something "evil" against my country. If something is wrong, it is wrong - if people always defend their own country, no matter in which context, things that are not perfect will never improve.
01.04.2007, 13:40 quote
300 million americans and we have to have the one that takes EVERYTHING personally.
Paranoia anyone?
01.04.2007, 18:48 quote
| pollyanna37 wrote: |
| 300 million americans and we have to have the one that takes EVERYTHING personally.
Paranoia anyone? |
01.04.2007, 21:04 quote
| pollyanna37 wrote: |
| 300 million americans and we have to have the one that takes EVERYTHING personally.
Paranoia anyone? |
01.04.2007, 23:59 quote
and if everyone would bother reading the whole post I made, it says that americans arent perfect and I also put some of the problems here down...not paranoid abit and dont care about the comments itself about american ethics..it just seems like some people on here think there country is so perfect, while putting other countries down....and miss cheeky thought your not suppose to bring up the other site on here...oh forgot, only certain people are allowed to say something derrogatory against that site
02.04.2007, 01:03 quote
Okay lads take it easy. No sense in making this personal.
lostsouthernbelle has a point, America is in the news a lot and it can't be easy to see your countries foreign policy and moral standing constantly under attack on nearly every website you come across. Not everyone is patriotic, but then again not everyone likes seeing their country bad mouthed either, but if your in a political forum you have to expect to see negative things said about things you hold dear.
You want to defend those things, you do it by proper discourse and debate or not at all, and not make personal attacks.
You have to thicken your skin a little if your in a political forum. Its just the way things are im afraid.
Pol and lostsuthernbelle you have pm's
02.04.2007, 01:11 quote
I have no problems with people talking about the problems of this world at all...every country has its quirks and none is perfect as I have said in previous...I just commented on people constantly putting down either America or another country and not saying a word about there own country...I have put down America for alot of reasons thru out the time I have been on here this past year.....oh btw..no message in my inbox lol
02.04.2007, 19:34 quote
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| Betonsports closed down its US operations in August 2006. The US had been the group's biggest market, delivering around 95% of its profits. |
03.04.2007, 14:38 quote
Hi LostSuthernBelle, please i don't wish to appear to be jumping on a bandwagon at all, but current affairs is of some interest to me this past 5/6 yrs. I can appreciate how it must seem constantly encountering negative comments, but you must appreciate that looking at the US, from outside the US, is vastly!!!! different to looking at the US from within. You mention healthcare, education, social systems, etc. Sure, we all have similar gripes (certainly in the UK and Ireland at the moment), but these are not signficiant matters.
From my perspective, the thoroughly malignant effect that US foreign and economic policy has had on the world since Kissinger is at the root of so so much, not least the negative comments you might encounter in a place like this.
03.04.2007, 21:32 quote
no problem darkle...I had my reasons for saying what I did..and some understand why I did...again I have nothing against anyone complaining about foreign affairs as long as they also look from within their own countries and the disharmony, political crap there is....enough said
04.04.2007, 06:49 quote
| Greystone wrote: | ||
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But this would consequently mean, that everyone who is gay might also be arrested as in some countries there is a death penalty on being gay.....or lots of other weird laws.
Imagine tourists from Amsterdam gettings rrested in London on holidays because of cannabis related "crimes" that are legal in Amsterdam.
Laws are only valid in the country where they are made up....with only a few exceptions.
Furthermore, the USA on the one hand wants to forbid gambling, but other types of gambling on the internet are still allowed - and although online casinos are illegal in the USA, they still want to cash in on the profits....instead of paying the money back to the people from the USA and this way reducing the revenue to zero and having nothing left to tax.
04.04.2007, 07:02 quote
| Darkle wrote: |
| You mention healthcare, education, social systems, etc. Sure, we all have similar gripes (certainly in the UK and Ireland at the moment), but these are not signficiant matters. |
Ok, the health system in the UK IS a significant matter.....if people have to wait for certain cancer related treatments 2-3 years, this is unacceptable for example.
My mum works in a hospital in Germany, and she noticed more and more people from the UK fly to Germany for certain treatments or examinations because they either can not afford it in the UK or the waiting list is too long.
I forgot the name of one of those examinations....but in the UK the waiting list is 2 years(!!!) for them...and here it is not more then 1 month and it is for free.
Sorry, for coming up with an example from Germany again....but not everything is perfect here either - I am also unemotional as to whether I am complaining about things in my own country or any other country...although I have lived in more then one country and I don't even like the phrase " my country" because I just happen to live here and wouldn't even defend it in a case of war and rather go on holiday instead (an if everyone did that we wouldnt have wars in the first place lol)
I never mention anything to make other countries appear stupid or whatever - I only sometimes want to point out some things people might not be aware of.
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