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20.08.2009, 11:58 quote

tzazo
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Far right has more in common with the far left than anything else as far as I've ever seen.

The only real difference is over who is entitled to their 'care' and who is entitled to their 'abuse'.

Human nature is selfish, even selfessness and cooperation is driven by self interest.

 

20.08.2009, 12:16 quote

zacktelstar
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Aye agreed, there no such thing as altruism - but that's ok. Altruism would not evolve any society and it's systems of trade and social cohesion. Most "altruistic" gestures are part of a non-zero sum game, in which some benefit; material, emotional, social standing, kinship etc; will be returned in some form at some point.
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20.08.2009, 20:16 quote

xxeasterbunnyxx

People are often driven by fear

-fear of being poor
-fear of low status
-fear of upsetting people
etc etc.

As pointed out by the little green man, 'fear leads to anger.'

As pointed out by the little blue man, 'you will not be punished for your anger. You will be punished by your anger.'

We evolved to survive, not to be 'enlightened spirits'.
It's difficult to let go. :/

 

21.08.2009, 00:30 quote

zacktelstar
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Yep fear is a huge factor in life. Don't be somebodies lunch.

Saw an excellent stage play, a few years back, in which the dialogue was soley constructed from the answers to a set questionaire which the theatre company had mailed to hundreds of folk (housewives, generals, farmers, students, salesmen...)

The questions (it appeared) were relating to; current issues, the then war on terror, media culture, Tom Cruise's sexuality and potential personal concerns.

Certain sets of anwsers were then made made flesh as specific characters in the play. The diaogue was amazing - it created wierd yet plausible conversation and debate - between people who have never met. Some of the answers were also made into in songs.

The only character which was purley invented, was a campy 8 ft high alien space-lizard, which kinda transcended the plays events, and fed of the fear of humans.
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03.10.2010, 04:38 quote

scriptwriter

Are we differentiating between far-right and extreme-right here, or is there an ambient middle ground of rightness to be contemplated prior to posting...? I don't know whether to pre-condition myself by considering Norman Tebbit or Joseph Goebbels...

 

19.04.2011, 18:35 quote

scriptwriter

And just to refresh this thread: if you wish to hear what the biggest US far-right organisation has to say about race, aids, crime and hate, here's a link to a talk! I remain divorced from its contents and opinion, but it's interesting none the less. http://www.natall.com/internet-radio/ts/090801.ram

 

20.04.2011, 02:48 quote

chriscross2010

Leftie wankers. No wonder this country has gone to the dogs. Why don't you marry off and help the Taliban and wear a sheet round yourself!

 

20.04.2011, 08:33 quote

zacktelstar
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chriscross2010 wrote:
Leftie wankers. No wonder this country has gone to the dogs. Why don't you marry off and help the Taliban and wear a sheet round yourself!


that's rather reactionary of you. I don't understand the affinity between the Left and the Taliban you've cooked up. If you look beyond the Taliban's funny accents and these sheets you have them in - you'll see backwardness, anger, fear, extremism, intolerance, bigotness, ignorance, sexual repression, radical conservatism...yes I'm drawing parrelels with the same kernel of existance which drives the Far Right.

The Taliban were of course armed and empowered as allies of the US Conservative Reagan administration in the 80's.

Maybe you're 'thinking' of the mass protests against the war in Iraq. Which was actually contested across and between the political spectrum if you remember? Basic stuff

Maybe lay-off what you may think of as 'politics' - and sort out the negative emotions. Otherwise, rather than fannying about on the web, you'll be best hanging about after an Old Firm game (you don't need to have watched it) to have a fight with a white guy in a different coloured shirt to yours. If you end up visiting a hospital you can thank a lefty wanker with a funny name for creating a public health service.
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20.04.2011, 08:53 quote

scottoh
Joined: 06 Nov 2008 Posts: 283 Location: United Kingdom, England, Surrey
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chriscross2010 wrote:
Leftie wankers. No wonder this country has gone to the dogs. Why don't you marry off and help the Taliban and wear a sheet round yourself!


Has the country gone to the dogs? We have our problems but we have not needed to be bailed out by the EU like some other countries have. Show me a democracy ruled country that doesn't have similar problems to ours but enjoys the same kind of prosperity?

(damn I bet somebody does show me such a country now Laughing )

 

20.04.2011, 17:55 quote

dejaentendu91

chriscross2010 wrote:
Leftie wankers. No wonder this country has gone to the dogs. Why don't you marry off and help the Taliban and wear a sheet round yourself!


omg, you're lack of understanding and education and knowledge of history on left politics makes me laugh at you.
and angry!! omg i could rant for hours. you obviously don't even know the history of your own country and government. go get a friggin' history book. or read up about it online!
eugh!!!

 

20.04.2011, 19:45 quote

scriptwriter

You mean left-winger men and women don't ever wank? I'd think you're wrong on that one - and Harold Wilson had a b----i----g pipe!!!!! lurk

 
 
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