I'm inclinded to agree with Lee on that one. Which also brings the point to if foreigners marry around with our country, they dont have human rights. They gave that away when they decided to murder someone. Should be the same with thieves. Self defence, you can throw 2 punches and thats it.

I'm sorry but, kicking someone in the kneecap is more risky. I'd rather pull my body back and lean into a right hook to either to temple, or the jaw. either one will drop them. Yes, a temple punch is dangerous, but one hit is self-defence.

But, tryst, you're abiding by the rules of security. Personally though, i'd rather employ someone who knows how to have a fight to look after my shit then someone who can lay down a yellow belt in karate as fighting experience. Because lets face it, karate is the shittiest form of martial arts you can choose to do. And it all depends on positioning, which you cant get properly in a street fight

Depends on how you apply it. Stances and strikes that are taught by instructors are basics to increase power and keep you from throwing yourself off balance. There is what is known as a fighting stance which is used more for actual combat, the others are mostly for training and balance. Who would realistically use cat stance or sumo stance in a street fight?

Aside from that, blocking is more important IMO. If you can stop someone hitting you then you have less chance of getting hurt or injured yourself.

Punch versus a kick? Simple physics dictate that you put someone way beyond arms reach with a kick and part of what you learn is how to see things coming. Shifts in weight, body language etc lets me know they are squaring up for a fight and I'm already in a position to kick if I need to, where I'm going to aim it is all I need to determine. If someone is holding a knife, I'm ready to break bones if I really have to, I don't need to shift my stance for it.

I agree that the law regarding self defence is useless in the UK. I also agree that someone who breaks the law automatically gives up all their rights. Unfortunately, I don't make the laws but I am constrained by them in my job. If I break them myself, I lose my license and thereby, my job too. Once my license is gone, I can't work in security ever again and will never obtain another license to do so.

It's shit pay for a dangerous job but at the end of the day, it's a monthly wage and jobs are hard to come by. It's not like I have a choice really, my computer programming skills are too far out of date now and the chance of finding work in programming at my age, even with updated skills would rate well into the minus figures.

You bring valid points to the table, however it depends on the person. If the person has the right attitude and doesn't fly off the handle at the slightest word or instigation of a fight then they have the time to stance up and think about where to kick. Of course, legs are stronger than arms in most cases so the damage is higher, yet if your leg gets caught you're going down to be monkey punched over and over.

The SIA liscence isnt the easiest thing to keep with the laws we have. But, so far from what i've seen security work is great pay. I know someone on 9 pound per hour..Are you in retail security?

With computers, the software is constantly updated so you could spend 4 years learning one side of programming for it to all change as soon as you come out. It's a very risky throw of the dice that.

I learned a mixture of Army self defence and Karate. It means that, if I go down, I can still use the self defence against monkey punches so I have little to fear from that. The majority of people I'm going to be going up against are untrained street urchins so it's unlikely that they are going to stand much of a chance against someone even with low level training in any martial arts. It's the main reason that most security guards have at least two or three grades training in one form or another, it provides a certain level of protection.

Security is good pay on certain sites. Most places pay only minimum wage which is crap considering that you are right in the front line. I much prefer corporate where you only have gatehouse duties etc for that wage. I want a lot more money for the danger of getting stabbed etc in retail.

Unfortunately, due to the laws, I have to use leg sweeps to bring someone down rather than kicks, (minimum force and all that). Since I don't have the doormans license, I don't get C&R (control and restraint) training, so I have to make do with basic self defence. If someone decides to use a knife or weapon of some kind, I can use any force necessary, even break bones if I feel that is the only way to stop them. The best part is that we do get a lot of support from the street cameras to give evidence that the force we used was justified.

Not being funny but if someone had a knife then trying to break their bones is going to end you in hospital or in a coffin.

You need to get the knife out of their hands without giving them the chance to stab you, if you don't do that then you're f****d.

You're best chance is to land a one-punch KO to the temple or chin or to shit yourself and hope the smell makes them run off.