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15.03.2007, 21:53 quote

BlueEyes37
Joined: 22 Feb 2007 Posts: 14 Location: United Kingdom, Scotland, Edinburgh
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tony28 wrote:
i find this all very intresting as i too have been finding out about the parental responsibility rights. unfortunaly am fighting to get my name on the birth certificate but she dose not want me on it out of spite.


Sorry to hear that m8....luckily i am on the birth certificate, but its still very difficult as my ex is being spiteful too. UT

At the lawyers tomorrow to send her news of a court date, so i am expecting things to get nasty, and things to get worse before they get better.

I hope you get it sorted. Cool

 

15.03.2007, 22:03 quote

HarryMunk
Joined: 12 Mar 2007 Posts: 83 Location: United Kingdom, England, Bristol
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I wish you all the best mate. I can't imagine what it would be like not to see my daughter, she's my life it would really kill me.

I split with my ex and it was quite amicable, I'm on Ava's birth certificate and we have a shared parenting agreement wherby I have her Tues, thurs and alternate sat and sun. Although its not the best situation I have to make the best of this situation.

Hope it all works out

 

15.03.2007, 22:22 quote

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Prob good news for you:

I'm on the 'other side' of this situation ie a single mum, pretty acrimonious with ex and he ISN'T on the birth certificate. Have no legal arrangement in place but when I got telephone advice off a solicitor last year, she said that it is not MY place to award parental responsibility. The father/you can apply to the courts to be awarded p.r. and it is up to the judge, not us (the mothers).

Unless you have been violent or pose a threat to the children then there is practically no way the court will not award you p.r, apparently.

I'm in Scotland as you'll see and not sure if/how it is different further south.

You are likely to have more rights than you think, everyone thinks dads have no rights but it's changing fast; I for example put it in writing to my son's nursery that nobody but me should be allowed to collect son. I thought this was standard practice for women with potentially dodgy exes. However the nursery staff informed that if his dad wants to take him they are not allowed to stop him.

BTW I wasn't doing this out of bitterness I was distraught, thinking my son might be snatched and taken 'away', you get my drift.

 

17.03.2007, 02:02 quote

BlueEyes37
Joined: 22 Feb 2007 Posts: 14 Location: United Kingdom, Scotland, Edinburgh
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[quote="Mewler"]

Unless you have been violent or pose a threat to the children then there is practically no way the court will not award you p.r, apparently.
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My ex has already told me she'll play dirty, lying about me if she can in court..
I have enough people that know me however & hopefully wont be too much trouble, but it leaves a bitter taste in my mouth..

 

20.03.2007, 21:37 quote

BlueEyes37
Joined: 22 Feb 2007 Posts: 14 Location: United Kingdom, Scotland, Edinburgh
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Ok, update (kind of)

The court action papers will be served in the next 2 weeks...(bracing for a emotional response), we will then go to court a week later. My lawyer thinks i will have not much trouble getting the PR, but

My ex has said she would go to jail for disobaying the court rather than signing them..(bravado atm i think) but what would the position be then?

She said she'd be prepared to go to jail over it...

If that happened do i get them automatically as she is an ex-criminal Confused
Also would the kids live with me while their mothers doing her time Confused

Silly questions i know, but my ex is a silly person.....

 

21.03.2007, 07:49 quote

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BlueEyes37 wrote:
Ok, update (kind of)

The court action papers will be served in the next 2 weeks...(bracing for a emotional response), we will then go to court a week later. My lawyer thinks i will have not much trouble getting the PR, but

My ex has said she would go to jail for disobaying the court rather than signing them..(bravado atm i think) but what would the position be then?

She said she'd be prepared to go to jail over it...

If that happened do i get them automatically as she is an ex-criminal Confused
Also would the kids live with me while their mothers doing her time Confused

Silly questions i know, but my ex is a silly person.....


I would say you have a very high chance of getting custody if she goes to jail... just don't enlighten her Smile and if yu can prove they've benefited being with you, you then stand a good chance of keeping custody. Just remind the courts that she felt a (misguided) principle was more important than the children!

 

30.03.2007, 19:38 quote

BlueEyes37
Joined: 22 Feb 2007 Posts: 14 Location: United Kingdom, Scotland, Edinburgh
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Well, she finally got court papers this morning.

Even though she has been nasty all the time up to now, when she got the papers, she actually broke down in tears and started sobbing in front of me.

It made me feel like a s**t, but i have to remind myself that while it was on her terms, she was continously nasty and trying to use them as a weapon.

Hopefully i might suggest she just gives me rights to spare going to court to save her any more upset, but maybe thats my problem that i can think with my heart rather than my head sometimes..

 

15.04.2007, 17:41 quote

BlueEyes37
Joined: 22 Feb 2007 Posts: 14 Location: United Kingdom, Scotland, Edinburgh
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LoL, might have guessed, never lasted long.

She is now usuing the kids as a weapon against me & turned my step-kids against me. They dont want to come and visit or speak to me Sad

I can imagining her telling them that i am trying to take their little brother and sister away, sounds like something she would do.

The anger and hostility is back too, makes me feel silly for feeling sorry for her.

My two are still 'dad' mad, but it leaves a bitter taste in the mouth to think someone could be so venimous.

 

15.04.2007, 17:55 quote

kyheartacher
Joined: 16 Apr 2006 Posts: 460 Location: USA, Kentucky, Aflex
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Speaking from legal point u do have your rights Im pre law here in USA,if your name is on birth certificate you can get your attorney to make a stipulation that she not move from her present location because you fear she will flee with the children,or if you fear for their safety then approach the courts by all meanms the one safety catch courts look at is safety well being of the children,they dont like to see squabbling in courtroom,so ease your mind get some paperwork filed to ease your mind

 

15.04.2007, 18:00 quote

kyheartacher
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tony28 wrote:
i find this all very intresting as i too have been finding out about the parental responsibility rights. unfortunaly am fighting to get my name on the birth certificate but she dose not want me on it out of spite.
oh now this sounds good if u suspect you arte the father you get a dna done this is undeniable proof just who biological one is.I t does not matter if she dont want it if you turn out to be a father then good luck to you

 

15.04.2007, 18:18 quote

Anonymous

Thx for the updates Blueyes37, this will be useful for when my ex and my eventually get divorced. We have 2 children who stay with me atm, i however do get worried if i piss her off that she will just take the kids and i wont see them again.

Hope it all goes well for you please keep us posted if u can Very Happy

GL

 

15.04.2007, 18:50 quote

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kyheartacher wrote:
Speaking from legal point u do have your rights Im pre law here in USA,if your name is on birth certificate you can get your attorney to make a stipulation that she not move from her present location because you fear she will flee with the children,or if you fear for their safety then approach the courts by all meanms the one safety catch courts look at is safety well being of the children,they dont like to see squabbling in courtroom,so ease your mind get some paperwork filed to ease your mind


Oh god yeah thats what i was ment to tell blue eyes before lol over here in the uk its called a residency order, my ex threatend me with taking karl away a few months ago and i managed to get a residency order in place to stop him from doing so.

 

15.04.2007, 21:28 quote

kyheartacher
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hi Danni,yeah its a hoot we got similar ways but different ways doing things but Blue Eyes living under a threat from her is not living at all,how can u enjoy the children.And whether u realize it or not you broadcast your fears onto the ones innocent in all this,the children.And you do have your rights so use them dont feel u are under the gun,

 

15.04.2007, 21:36 quote

kyheartacher
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BlueEyes37 wrote:
LoL, might have guessed, never lasted long.

She is now usuing the kids as a weapon against me & turned my step-kids against me. They dont want to come and visit or speak to me Sad

I can imagining her telling them that i am trying to take their little brother and sister away, sounds like something she would do.

The anger and hostility is back too, makes me feel silly for feeling sorry for her.

My two are still 'dad' mad, but it leaves a bitter taste in the mouth to think someone could be so venimous.
dont dwell on this,the judge can take them into quarters talk to thenm him,or herself,and access the situation,u just be the best dad u can be.This is one thing I do believe and trust in as my major will be family law,trust in yourself they will remember you for who u are.You seem to be stressing alot here try running,working puzzle to sooth your mind.Again there are steps to take this is called alienation of feelings no parent should ever do it.

 

15.04.2007, 21:41 quote

irishlgirl74
irishlgirl74 Joined: 15 Jan 2007 Posts: 1444 Location: United Kingdom, Northern Ireland, Down
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she may have broke down, cause maybe she really didnt think u would do ahead with it, and it kinda hit home 2 her that ur not gona give up with a fight, and she could have broke down also 2 pull at ur heart strings, still ask 2 see the kids and phone, log or record ne messages that may help u in court, and please keep us posted and remember u have friends and a shoulder 2 cry on netime u want, were all here for each other tc

 
 
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