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27.07.2006, 18:06 quote

Anonymous

Found out that if you are an unmarried father and even on the birth certificate as father, if it was registered b4 december 2003, you have no parental rights regarding your child.
NOTE..if you are married or on a registered birth certificate AFTER december 2003 then you automatically have parental responsibility, so all is well. Woman automatically get it, married or not.

2003 is when the new legislation came into effect..and to get parental responsibilty for your child you have to draw up a parental responsibiltiy agreement with the mother, even if living with them..

Without it, if you split, the mother can take your child abroad, change schools, change childs surname etc...and you have no say whatsoever..You wouldnt even be able to say 'yes' to a life saving operation if child needed it..
Getting a form, getting it signed all costs nothing..

just thought it was worth posting about..lol

 

27.07.2006, 18:08 quote

Anonymous

That sucks. Lucky I don't have any kids!

 

27.07.2006, 21:49 quote

Anonymous

Interesting, you can see where 'fathers for justice' come from...

I wonder how many avoid it to avoid the CSA - sorry if this is cynical

 

28.07.2006, 03:56 quote

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ladytracexx Joined: 20 May 2006 Posts: 3411 Location: United Kingdom, England, Cornwall
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Sadly there are always two arguments in parenting, and it does nearly always appear that the fathers get the raw deal. But in some cases there ARE FARTHERS who are very willing to take on their responsibility as a parent and there are some mothers who block there rights! I would never deny my children their dad. After all they are the innocent ones caught in the middle!
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28.07.2006, 05:19 quote

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ladytracexx wrote:
I would never deny my children their dad. After all they are the innocent ones caught in the middle!


Well said Trace, sadly some mothers use their children as weapon (if you like) to get at the father, very wrong indeed (proving the children haven't been harmed by the father previously)

 

28.07.2006, 06:55 quote

Anonymous

And thats My story Ringer, And it was all my fault she was sleeping with my best buddy, Ha ha ha , My Ex was and is a Bitch, Any way she can she uses the kids. I was Lucky mind ya, we wernt married and I had went to the courts and sought joint custody and joint guardianship, and got it no priblem, that was 3 years ago, The law in ireland for unmarried fathers is a joke, women tend to play the same old tune in front of a judge, and the judge takes pity and nails the man to the cross, she Gets all benifits and her Bonus from the father, Its mad but sure look,

 

28.07.2006, 08:41 quote

Anonymous

I did the same as yourself to an extent, I went to court to get access to my son, I got it np.

She tried the old he used to beat me up etc etc (which I didn't do), the judge said he wasn't interested, he only had the child's welfare at interest.

I was asked why I hadn't try to see my son for a 3 month period, to which I replied, i got a letter from ex's solicitor telling me to keep away from the property.........Oh just how it all back fired on her Twisted Evil

My sons almost 21 now and he doesn't speak with me, his mother has poisoned him I guess??

Maybe he will come to his senses one day?

 

28.07.2006, 08:57 quote

PrincessTamz
PrincessTamz Joined: 15 Feb 2006 Posts: 470 Location: United Kingdom, England, Essex
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Yup its totally true my sister has just been through the courts sorting out all this with her ex. Fortunately my nephew was born in July 2003..... I say fortunately as her ex is a violent, drug taking alcoholic......!

But I of course appreciate how can be a real misfortunate to the good men amongst us!

 

28.07.2006, 10:02 quote

Anonymous

Just found a couple of recent-ish pics of him on the net




Does he look like me, I can certainly tell you he is my son, not that any of you would or have said otherwise Smile

 

28.07.2006, 10:59 quote

Anonymous

He does , Give it time,They say time is a great healer. my kids are only 5 and 6, And i have along road ahead, i love every moment i spend with then, she has tried her best to poison then, but My honest deep down love for them always wins, and they love been with me, the judge in ?????? is a wanker, he was an alcoholic, and now he believes a woman is right, I am not saying there is bad bad men out ther, but they make it harder on the rest of us, All i can do is be there as much as i can, Life would never be the same without them and thats why I WILL NOT LET EVIL WIN OVER

 

28.07.2006, 14:01 quote

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whizzer wrote:
Interesting, you can see where 'fathers for justice' come from...

I wonder how many avoid it to avoid the CSA - sorry if this is cynical


i am led to believe that getting this agreement has no bearing or effect regarding CSA..and it also is not a means of gaining any visiting rights with the child either..
and yes i agree..you can see where 'fathers for justice' are coming from..

 

28.07.2006, 14:33 quote

ladytracexx
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53846 wrote:
whizzer wrote:
Interesting, you can see where 'fathers for justice' come from...

I wonder how many avoid it to avoid the CSA - sorry if this is cynical


i am led to believe that getting this agreement has no bearing or effect regarding CSA..and it also is not a means of gaining any visiting rights with the child either..
and yes i agree..you can see where 'fathers for justice' are coming from..

And so do i! it is just such a shame that alot of women just do not see how allowing the childs father to be a father can also benefit them! I love my ex seeing his kids and plus it gives me the added bonus of having a little break from them. Don't get me wrong i adore them to bits.... but its also nice to have a little me time to call my own and knowing the the lads are happy and contented with a dad tha enjoys doing all the boys things!
One happy mum! three happy children! and one happy DAD!!! Smile
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29.07.2006, 17:35 quote

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I was stuck with a maintenance order that cant be resolved without a costly court process! I have a contact order which was broken so many times that all contact ceased in 1996! Its odd how the judicial system can find the time and funds for criminals in prison to sue cos their mattress is lumpy!! but bearing in mind the Govts commitment to family values (HUGE JOKE) it seems odd that time and effort cant be made to assist the absent dad??????
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03.08.2006, 18:36 quote

jizhomer
Joined: 02 Aug 2006 Posts: 2 Location: United Kingdom, England, Northamptonshire
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Hi all, this isn't how I imagined my first post here to be!

I split from my partner 3 years ago, access has nearly always not been a problem, her new partner is the issue. He thinks that because he lives with them, does the shopping, pays the bills etc that makes him "more" of their Dad than me. The point of this is that a few weeks ago my youngest gave me reason to believe her boyfriends getting a bit heavy with his discipline, I tried talking to them about it but that wasn't happening. I had no choice but to seek the help of social services... And now they tell me that by law they're not allowed to tell me ANYTHING about it! Being the kids Dad doesn't mean anything legally unless you live with them, or fight through the courts when you don't. It's wrong! Evil or Very Mad

 

03.08.2006, 19:31 quote

Anonymous

jizhomer wrote:
Hi all, this isn't how I imagined my first post here to be!

I split from my partner 3 years ago, access has nearly always not been a problem, her new partner is the issue. He thinks that because he lives with them, does the shopping, pays the bills etc that makes him "more" of their Dad than me. The point of this is that a few weeks ago my youngest gave me reason to believe her boyfriends getting a bit heavy with his discipline, I tried talking to them about it but that wasn't happening. I had no choice but to seek the help of social services... And now they tell me that by law they're not allowed to tell me ANYTHING about it! Being the kids Dad doesn't mean anything legally unless you live with them, or fight through the courts when you don't. It's wrong! Evil or Very Mad


firstly ..hi and welcome. I am saddened to hear about your current state of affairs. It is very hard when the ex has a new partner and is acting as 'the dad'. I myself am in the exact same postion ie.ex has new fellow..

below is some links that may be of help to you and maybe explain things and were you stand..this is how i started..i hope these will be of some use to you too.
I ended up getting parental responsibilty, which means now i am recognised in law as the childs father, and do have a say in things..
http://www.fathersdirect.com/index.php?id=13&cID=385
http://www.fnf.org.uk/childact.htm#resorder

 
 
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