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Home >> Sex >> WHAT'S THE DEAL WITH love
03.06.2006, 22:57 quote
love IS ONE OF THE WAYS WE EXPRESS OUR LOVE FOR THE OTHER PERSON, SOMETIMES love CAN BE MISUSED TO GET THINGS FROM A PERSON. DO YOU FEEL THAT USING love TO RECEIVE GIFTS OR ANYTHING IS RIGHT ? :|
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YOU HAVE BEEN HIT WITH THE KISS OF LOVE.
05.06.2006, 04:19 quote
love with the right person is wonderful and all about expressing your feelings.
I didn't realise when I was younger ... it was more a bit of fun and self exploration.
05.06.2006, 07:47 quote
| Quote: |
| I didn't realise when I was younger ... it was more a bit of fun and self exploration |
i dont know if this makes sense but i kinda see the love you have when youre younger as being important to youre future love life. cause at least youll know wat you like and dislike. But you have to admit that the self exploration can be a lot of fun lol
05.06.2006, 13:34 quote
love is a genetic and hormonal response. all humans have this urge, sure it feels good (its supposed to feel good so you will want to do it again, proliferating the speicies) buts it is not the be all and end all of any partnership, although in this day and age most people mistake love for what is actually lust. personally i think it would be cool to go back to the times when love ment somthing. Now though, its just used as a weapon against weak men by women so they can get what is needed by them at that specific time. 
05.06.2006, 13:39 quote
I think that if you use love just to get what ever you want, you might aswell be a prostitute.
In my experience, love is always better if it's with somebody you love.
05.06.2006, 14:40 quote
| flowerangelaura wrote: |
| I think that if you use love just to get what ever you want, you might aswell be a prostitute.
In my experience, love is always better if it's with somebody you love. |
well said!!
05.06.2006, 15:05 quote
Carlos summed it up.
Except about the "going back to the good ol' days" 
It's true though, women are the ones who use it as a weapon. Not men.
Men know that love is simply an enjoyable experience, whether with someone you love or not. Women have created this illusion of it being something greater. Something spiritual maybe? Whatever, it's naive.
05.06.2006, 15:45 quote
| swissrebel wrote: |
| Carlos summed it up.
Except about the "going back to the good ol' days"
It's true though, women are the ones who use it as a weapon. Not men. Men know that love is simply an enjoyable experience, whether with someone you love or not. Women have created this illusion of it being something greater. Something spiritual maybe? Whatever, it's naive. |
Men do sometimes use it as a weapon, not just females.
How have we created this illusion, exactly?
I'm not saying that love outside of a relationship/love is bad, but you can definately tell the difference.
I used to have love without love, then i fell in love, simple as. Then again, i haven't had love without 'love' for a whille. *shrugs*
05.06.2006, 15:58 quote
| flowerangelaura wrote: | ||
Men do sometimes use it as a weapon, not just females. How have we created this illusion, exactly? I'm not saying that love outside of a relationship/love is bad, but you can definately tell the difference. I used to have love without love, then i fell in love, simple as. Then again, i haven't had love without 'love' for a whille. *shrugs* |
Because one side of the equation has decided that having love with people is slutty behaviour, male or female. Guys call a guy who sleeps around a player. Girls deem a girl who does it a slut.
Why? Because apparently girls aren't allowed to have casual love. Because apparently love is something that should be limited to a relationship.
So immediately, everyone who isn't in a relationship - isn't allowed to have love.
It's not society's fault. Men have always been deemed "love obsessed". But it's basically because we're just not bothered about women thinking our sexual behaviour is slutty - we just get on and do it.
It's an illusion. It's not men who created it, it's one of the nasty aftertastes of the feminist movement being taken to an extreme.
Nobody can tell me what I do with my life, whether it be sexually or otherwise - but only one gender will judge me for it.
05.06.2006, 16:04 quote
| swissrebel wrote: |
|
Because one side of the equation has decided that having love with people is slutty behaviour, male or female. Guys call a guy who sleeps around a player. Girls deem a girl who does it a slut. Why? Because apparently girls aren't allowed to have casual love. Because apparently love is something that should be limited to a relationship. So immediately, everyone who isn't in a relationship - isn't allowed to have love. It's not society's fault. Men have always been deemed "love obsessed". But it's basically because we're just not bothered about women thinking our sexual behaviour is slutty - we just get on and do it. It's an illusion. It's not men who created it, it's one of the nasty aftertastes of the feminist movement being taken to an extreme. Nobody can tell me what I do with my life, whether it be sexually or otherwise - but only one gender will judge me for it. |
I never call another girl a slut. It's just disrespectful..unless she deserves it. Even then I tend to keep my mouth shut rather than saying something.
I have nothing against casual love, at all. It's up to the people involved.
I actually admire men for the way you do just 'get on and do it'. If a female did that, she would automatically be labelled as a slut. Which is wrong.
I also think that the feminist movement is a load of crap.
05.06.2006, 16:06 quote
Personally i think any love is good.
love with someone you love is great and so is love with someone you've only just met. Its good in a fairy tale setting with a four poster bed, and its good when your tearing each others clothes off in the hallway of some flats coz you just cant wait. Sometimes you want it slow and gentle, sometimes you want it hard and passionate....
Im not sure exactly what your asking with the "DO YOU FEEL THAT USING love TO RECEIVE GIFTS OR ANYTHING IS RIGHT ?" If your talking about prostitution then if thats how someone CHOOSES to make a living then who am i to critiscise ? If your talking about manipulating someone to give you things then there would be more to it than just love, a certain amount of messing with their heads would probably have been done before it even got to love - this i do not agree with.
05.06.2006, 16:08 quote
| Nicaragua wrote: |
| Personally i think any love is good.
love with someone you love is great and so is love with someone you've only just met. Its good in a fairy tale setting with a four poster bed, and its good when your tearing each others clothes off in the hallway of some flats coz you just cant wait. Sometimes you want it slow and gentle, sometimes you want it hard and passionate.... Im not sure exactly what your asking with the "DO YOU FEEL THAT USING love TO RECEIVE GIFTS OR ANYTHING IS RIGHT ?" If your talking about prostitution then if thats how someone CHOOSES to make a living then who am i to critiscise ? If your talking about manipulating someone to give you things then there would be more to it than just love, a certain amount of messing with their heads would probably have been done before it even got to love - this i do not agree with. |
You are very right, any love is good.
05.06.2006, 16:12 quote
| flowerangelaura wrote: | ||
I never call another girl a slut. It's just disrespectful..unless she deserves it. Even then I tend to keep my mouth shut rather than saying something. I have nothing against casual love, at all. It's up to the people involved. I actually admire men for the way you do just 'get on and do it'. If a female did that, she would automatically be labelled as a slut. Which is wrong. I also think that the feminist movement is a load of crap. |
Sorry, when I say "women call other women" sluts, it's a fairly harsh generalisation - but it's generally made worse by the fact even the most decent of girls has the urge to gossip about other girls. It's an acceptance thing, much like guys like to prove their manliness to each other - girls just (generally) gossip and degrade other women around them.
You're right, the feminist movement is a load of crap nowadays but it was very important when the original message was there. Nowadays, equality's pretty much sorted out, and racial equality is still lingering in the balance.
My only problem is that people still inexplicably link love with relationships, when they're only related because the two can exist together. But there are plenty of times when they shouldn't. If you find someone you enjoy love with, have a solid relationship with, even commiting to each other, fine.
I just don't think people should then bring love into the arguement. I play bloody tennis with one of my best mates. I have a relationship with her, and could easily have love - but we don't. Not because I don't fancy her, or think love would make things complicated - but because love isn't relevant to the situation. The same should apply to a relationship, love (not for procreation, simply for pleasure) is just a pleasure.
Sorry for the rant. I've been called a whore over the past few days quite a few times, it wouldn't normally bother me, but i'm letting it out.
I've only slept with 3 people. My knowledge of love, as well as my experiences, are what have labelled me a whore apparently.
05.06.2006, 16:19 quote
| swissrebel wrote: |
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Sorry, when I say "women call other women" sluts, it's a fairly harsh generalisation - but it's generally made worse by the fact even the most decent of girls has the urge to gossip about other girls. It's an acceptance thing, much like guys like to prove their manliness to each other - girls just (generally) gossip and degrade other women around them. You're right, the feminist movement is a load of crap nowadays but it was very important when the original message was there. Nowadays, equality's pretty much sorted out, and racial equality is still lingering in the balance. My only problem is that people still inexplicably link love with relationships, when they're only related because the two can exist together. But there are plenty of times when they shouldn't. If you find someone you enjoy love with, have a solid relationship with, even commiting to each other, fine. I just don't think people should then bring love into the arguement. I play bloody tennis with one of my best mates. I have a relationship with her, and could easily have love - but we don't. Not because I don't fancy her, or think love would make things complicated - but because love isn't relevant to the situation. The same should apply to a relationship, love (not for procreation, simply for pleasure) is just a pleasure. Sorry for the rant. I've been called a whore over the past few days quite a few times, it wouldn't normally bother me, but i'm letting it out. I've only slept with 3 people. My knowledge of love, as well as my experiences, are what have labelled me a whore apparently. |
I have only gossiped about other girls a couple of times. And i didn't even mean it to be horrible towards them, either.
I did in fact mean that it is crap now.
I have a lot of male friends, that i haven't had love with. In fact, i get along better with males than i do females. Because females can be bitchy, not all, but most.
We all need to rant sometimes!
Nobody has the right to call you a whore, especially those that don't even know you.
And apparently i'm more of a whore compared to you...!
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