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Im sure that there are plenty of all women who would say they would enjoy this sort of thing, in theory it all sounds very cute and tender.

My advice is to forget all this though and just go and get laid. It sounds like you have the lovey/strokey/considerate thing sorted but to wait so long for "the right girl" has always sounded dumb to me. love is messy and noisy and the tender/lovey stuff is soon replaced by animal passion. Go get laid and practice so then when you do meet "the right girl" you have got over any inhbitions and have enough experience to show here a good time.
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it sounded brilliant up until you said you WOULDN'T penetrate. i'm sorry if i sound like some love mad fiend but after all that foreplay i'd need love. because what you do is foreplay.... it comes before love.

if someone got me all worked up like that and then refused to have full love with me you can bet your ass i would never call them again.

sorry if i've burst anyone's bubble. [/i]

I agree with almostpurrrfect. If I had gotten a girl THAT worked up and excited, I would not have enough self control to just stop. Sounds like torture to me.
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i understand the need to find the right girl, but sounds like you have already had your tongue in places that are intimate, why not anything else. and i agree with moon and purr, u get me to that point u better finish what you started or i would be looking for someone who would, sorry but thats the way i feel,.....dont you get sexually frustrated yourself???????

In bed with a naked Lady no full love but all the rest, I could'nt do it not that much self control not at that stage! Any Lady fancy doing research with me feel free, just for the sake of humanity you understand of course

god loves a trier scotsdave lol

hey i know what you mean i am also a virgin, and i have done everything else apart from full on love. The problem is if you want to do everything else then you have to understand a girl gets turned on and wants more. also i was with a bloke who was similar to you and wouldnt epentrate me and he wasnt a virgin and after some time it makes a girl start to think that you are just not that into her and that you dont like her enough to have full on love with her.

This is really intereresting what peoples definition of love is!

Surely if you are intimate with someone even without penetration then that is love.

So you have had your face/fingers/toys anything you can thing of in and around somoene else but because you have not had penetration that is still a virgin?

Now I was brought up a Catholic and I can stretch the boundries of love to avoid the guilt as much as the next person but that seems a little far fetched to me!

Sorry if that sounds harsh but if you like someone why put limits on it?

Pol x

I think I would end up very disappointed and frustrated! I agree with Almostpurrfect!

Again, I have to repeat what I've said before: Everyone is different.

Some women PREFER oral love, for example, to penetrative love. And some women orgasm from oral, but can't from penetrative love, so in those cases, non-penetrative love would be much more fulfilling for them.

However, many of the women in this thread appear not to fall into that category, which is cool. But there's a lot of variety out there.

Also, women who love penetrative love, but who have a few (or many) orgasms just from the "foreplay", can sometimes be satisfied with just the "foreplay" orgasms, for one session.

If you'll excuse the pun, there are no hard and fast rules.

but to be with a man and never have full penetrative love with him??? that's not natural. sorry but it's not.

I wasn't talking about "natural", I was talking about personal preferences.

As I recall, it can be a dangerous path that starts by labelling male/female penetrative love as "natural".