Hey Carlos, your posting about nice guys - was that original, or were you just echoing MY posting, which I did BEFORE yours, on this same forum (oneononeluva 02.06.2006, 10:46)?

Either way, we are apparently in agreement (and not just because we are both men). Aluria, in my view, what Carlos says IS true.

Aluria, I see your point but, from my experience, women always give that model answer about the kind of man they want ("genuine this, nice that, bla bla"). But the picture I'm getting from where I'm looking is that only a tiny minority of women really want nice guys, and a share of that minority have an ulterior motive to (ab)use the nice guy in some way, whether they want to or not.

time to call it quits now guys no more please this is the love forum not the slate each other forum. agree to dissagree and move on
thanks xx

Hi and thanks for your views and opinions, however I notice most of the replies are from younger single members who have yet to experience a long term relationship or even marriage, don't forget life is a learning curve we are all different you must remember that.
Also after years of marriage you do take each other for granted and don't show your love in the same way you used to, we have a lovely home and nice cars which we have both worked hard for and we are also very house proud, but it doesn't stop me from lusting the affections of another woman so those who say use your hand should really grow up and stop using theirs.
Finally just because you open a door for a lady doesn't make you a nice guy !! .. there is so much more to it than that.

danni, you are one smart cookie for being so young. wtg gf

I'm wondering why you're confused by this lack of response.

Why would any woman want to be a "bit on the side"? Unless you're some sort of sugar-daddy who's gonna buy them lots of presents, they may as well just look for someone single to have love with, and even then, that's assuming all they're after is love.

Also STOP TRYING TO CHEAT ON YOUR WIFE!!

Ed

lets look at the problem from a genetic point of veiw shall we. We as a race have been evolving for millions upon millions of years. in all of that time the strongest and most powerful of our desendants survived (ie, the ones who were best at getting food, for example). so therfore if the strongest most powerful men are the ones who get the food, then the women with a strong genetic pull to these powerful men are the ones most likely to pass on there genetic info to there children. This has happen for so long now, that even though now we see the world from a more culturaly evolved point of veiw the genetic urges out power common sence.

I would like to know what is wrong with acting like an American, please give me a break. and again seems like everyone is in agreement cheating on your mate is not a good thing no matter what the excuse is, take the hint from all of us here at the forum. and if anyone is trying to message me im not getting them because for days i have been trying to login, keep complaining but no answer, hopefully toby will have answer for me, sorry got off track there

Wow, we are so moral on here.

Seriously if you are looking for love then go to a love site, there are plenty on the web. There is a number of people looking for nice love here but they do not appear to be in the majority of posters in this forum.

I wonder if we can talk about love and sexual relations without the 'I want' or the 'why doesn't the world think I am special'.

btw, I agree with talking with your wife first... (I am such a hypocrite )

well I have to stand by what someone said about how would your wife feel, lets say your wife is doing the same thing on a different dating site and you found out,

and she had the same excuses as you did,

you would feel hurt,

and you said you take each other for granted, well atleast you reconise this and can do something about it.

try new things to spice it up abit, like you said, if she found out you would probably lose your lovely proud home, cars etc

is it worth it

This might sound a bit academic to you guys (notice the Americanism ) but what do you mean by 'nice'? The word has no meaning. It means 'precise' if you look it up.

This is me being pedantic. If you cheat on your wife then you are precisely that. A cheater.