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13.04.2008, 16:45 quote

annmarie5988

lilacrose wrote:
When you've loved and lost The One, you know.


Could not have put it better myself ........... sometimes you just have move on........ but it's very hard .......... Sad

 

14.04.2008, 05:26 quote

phoenix1978
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lilacrose wrote:
When you've loved and lost The One, you know.


If you've 'loved and lost the one'...does that mean the next person you get serious with will always be second best?...Not a great way to look at things if you ask me.
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14.04.2008, 05:51 quote

scottlarock

I dont know about all this "the one" business. its some fairtale that hollywood has put upon us. I am too busy enjoying myself with the woman i am with now to be thinking about "the one" and all that shit, i am in love, dont know how long it will last but i sure as hell am gonna enjoy it while it lasts. good luck to all you "the one" searchers Laughing

 

14.04.2008, 06:19 quote

darkhorse57

phoenix1978 wrote:
lilacrose wrote:
When you've loved and lost The One, you know.


If you've 'loved and lost the one'...does that mean the next person you get serious with will always be second best?...Not a great way to look at things if you ask me.


I agree with this to some extent. When one believes that they have already met - and lost - 'the one', it is a little too easy to not put as much effort into subsequent relationships, with a more non-chalant attitude towards problems in those relationships, rather than working a little harder at that relationship to make make it work.

I think one of the biggest pitfalls in actually looking for 'the one' is that one has high expectations of people that they meet, and those people often don't live up to those expectations, and we move on a little too easily when little things get in the way of the new person being 'the one'

I also met 'the one' last year, i.e. someone who I think is my soul mate. Things didn't work out - she still wanted things that I didn't (e.g. kids) and the few things that I didn't like about her outweighed the things that I did like about her (at the time). With hindsight I would have compromised a little more, with the exception of having kids.

There's a sort of moral to this story. I could get back together with her now, we have even talked about it off and on over the past few months. Even though I regard her a my soul mate, the fact that she wants kids stops us being together (or at least stopsme from being with her). I suppose the biggest pitfall in knowing this is that one might easily not put much effort into a new relationship, because they know that the person who is (potentially) their soul mate is still available. I haven't thought about whether or not I put less effort into new relationships that I start now. I hope not. Admitedly, I don't tend to look too far into the future now, and take each day as it comes, and plan for a week or two ahead at the most. Not because I am nostalgic for times I spent with 'the one', but because that is who I am now; I might change.....

 

14.04.2008, 09:10 quote

scottlarock

darkhorse57 wrote:


the fact that she wants kids stops us being together (or at least stopsme from being with her).


Gonna be nosey here stu, if she had gone off, met somebody else and had a child with that person, then split up with him and then you two had rekindled your spark, do you think you would be with her after that or not?

I just ask because i am one of those people who feels he doesn't want kids, and am unsure if i would date somebody again who already has kid(s), although i have done a long time ago. Luckily (for me) my present doesn't have any kids, so i haven't had to deal with that now or in recent years.

 

14.04.2008, 09:55 quote

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My friend is still hoping for the 'the one' but now she's in her late forties and the field has narrowed to men who aren't interested in having children. I keep telling her that there are men who don't want kids, but she thinks all men want them.....anyway, I think she's still a good catch for someone 'cos she's such a lovely person. I'm pretty sure she still believes that there is 'the one' out there somewhere I just hope she's lucky to find him or someone else to love and be happy with.

 

14.04.2008, 09:59 quote

darkhorse57

scottlarock wrote:


Gonna be nosey here stu, if she had gone off, met somebody else and had a child with that person, then split up with him and then you two had rekindled your spark, do you think you would be with her after that or not?
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Who knows......maybe. Maybe not.

scottlarock wrote:


I just ask because i am one of those people who feels he doesn't want kids, and am unsure if i would date somebody again who already has kid(s), although i have done a long time ago. Luckily (for me) my present doesn't have any kids, so i haven't had to deal with that now or in recent years.


A thought-provoking response. I'm not adverse to having children around me, far from it - my current girlfriend has 2 kids (youngest is 10), my previous girlfriend had 4 kids (youngest 3) and when I met my last long term partner her son was 7 (now almost 12, who I still see a lot). I think when it boils down to it, I don't really see myself starting a relationship where I'm going to be living with that person, so whether or no they have kids (or how many) doesn't affect my own day-to-day life, apart from interacting with the kids when I am around them. I am more than happy to involve myself with my girlfriends kids, at whatever level we both decide is appropriate, so perhaps my argument that I don't want kids of my own falls a bit flat.

I guess what I really mean, if I'm honest, is that meeting someone who already has kids means that I have older kids around me; at 50 years old, having a child of my own seems a bit unfair on the child, as I'd be hobbling along on my zimmer frame instead of being an 'active' dad. Seems a bit unfair on the child, really.

At the end of the day, I'd make a good father. If a pregnancy happens, I wouldn't be adverse to the idea of being a 'late-father', although I prefer not to (at this stage of my life) go into parenthood deliberately.

 

14.04.2008, 12:26 quote

lilacrose

Stu - my husband was 50 when our youngest was born. You might not suddenly become a geriatric you know! What I'm saying is, dont dismiss the idea JUST because of your age. Can't tell you how you personally would feel about 2 hourly night feeds etc. though! (I'm 41 and I couldn't do it now!).

 

14.04.2008, 12:30 quote

lilacrose

phoenix1978 wrote:
lilacrose wrote:
When you've loved and lost The One, you know.


If you've 'loved and lost the one'...does that mean the next person you get serious with will always be second best?...Not a great way to look at things if you ask me.


You are most likely right - but maybe with time my feelings on the matter will change? Right now, I would be happy to just meet someone who is TOTALLY different, therefore I would not be comparing - and maybe that is what I meant by "Another One"?
To be honest, I havent really thought too deeply about it, because if I did, I wouldnt be here now, I'd be 6' under.........

 

14.04.2008, 15:15 quote

darkhorse57

lilacrose wrote:
Stu - my husband was 50 when our youngest was born. You might not suddenly become a geriatric you know! What I'm saying is, dont dismiss the idea JUST because of your age. Can't tell you how you personally would feel about 2 hourly night feeds etc. though! (I'm 41 and I couldn't do it now!).


I'd hoped that people would have read between the lines about the age side of this. Certainly, you're right; at the age it 50 it still perfectly acceptable to become a parent.

It is more to do with the fact that at 50+ (even younger for many people), especially if one has been single for most of their life, without a family, one becomes self-centred - with their time, the money that they earn, their interests, etc, and the intrusion of a child (and to some extent, perhaps even a partner!) isn't always as welcome as it might have been at a younger. Almost certainly, most people make a decision not to have children when they reach a certain age not because of that age, but because of what it represents.

For myself, *if* I meet someone now (at 50) by the time I know whether or not I want to stay with her for the rest of my life and have a child with her, another 18 months will have gone by (a reasonable amount of time, I think - anyone who jumps into such a huge commitment any quicker is irresponsible, and basically making that commitment with a relative stranger!), another 9+ months for the course of nature.......add all the practical stuff up, and it means in my mid-60's I'll still be traipsing to school plays, picking nits, spending my Saturdays watching kids footie matches (when I could be at home reading the Saturday paper in bed making love to someone ).......the list is endless.

It is human nature to become self-centred over a long period of time, not a fault, I *am* self-centred, I like my space. Even spending too much time with a girlfriend can sometimes be a grind (until I meet someone that I *do* want to spend that much time with of course). By the same token, I might meet someone that I want to have a child with.

At the very least, I am honest with anyone I meet. I don't particularly want the intrusion of a baby in my life, not because I am 50, but because I have become selfish at the age of 50. I am equally honest wth women about what I do and don't want out of a relationship - and I'm certainly not expecting to meet 'the one'!

/* In the meantime, I shall continue to rut and bellow like an aging stag in the Highlands during mating season */

 

14.04.2008, 17:37 quote

mulder83

i think in years gone by the term "the one " could be applied because poeple stayed within the same cities and countries most of their lives so would only meet one or two compatible soulmates.

nowadays with the increase in imigration,people travelling and the internet its easier to come across a bigger selection of partners suitable for you.

 

15.04.2008, 07:11 quote

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I think I know what you mean Stu. I have 4 kids but don't want to be with someone who has young kids about on a regular basis, and god forbid they should want more!

At 41 I feel I've already given my best years to bringing up children and want time to myself. My 2 youngest live with their dad and my 2 eldest are now more or less independant adults. Apart from the constraints of a job, my time and money are my own now.

It was difficult enough starting again when the boys came along (there's 9 years between youngest girl and oldest boy), to do it all again (the sleepless nights, the constant needs/demands conversations revolving around whats the best nappy brand etc) fills me with dread at the meer thought!

And I really don't know where I'm going with this as my train of thought has just taken a wrong turn and got completely lost!! LOL I didn't think that was possible in the virtual world!!
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15.04.2008, 09:00 quote

darkhorse57

I'm not really sure how I got onto the topic of children further back in the thread (I can't be bothered reading my own drivel Smile ), but in some ways the 'selfishness' that results with age (and having already had kids and now wanting some 'me time') and not wanting anymore children can often be applied to relationships, or looking for 'the one'

To some extent, even though I still have vague hopes of meeting another soul mate, I quite often find myself irked by intrusions when I want to get on with my own things (but am getting much better at dealiong with them, as they aren't really intrusions are they?), which I suppose isn't a very good sign. I guess I've just never fallen that much in love that I am prepared to put someone else first and foremost in my life. I used to, but found my own life (especially work, and therefore income) took a downward turn, so now I try to find a compromise.

Hmmm, maybe it's time to talk to Mrs Darkhorse about what her expectations and hopes with me are. Or I shall point her in the direction of this thread and ask her if I am 'the one' for her Very Happy

 

15.04.2008, 09:19 quote

redelicious
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darkhorse57 wrote:

Hmmm, maybe it's time to talk to Mrs Darkhorse about what her expectations and hopes with me are. Or I shall point her in the direction of this thread and ask her if I am 'the one' for her Very Happy


Not sure there is such a thing as 'the one'. I thought I'd found my soulmate (soulmate does not necessarily equate to 'the one') in my 2nd husband. Then I thought I'd found 'the one' in my last relationship, maybe he was, who knows, but he didn't want to take on the kids ie give up the life he was used to. Now I just accept that loving someone is enough.

We've both made small compromises to fit round each others life-styles, we both accept neither is perfect and we both have pasts that have effected us profoundly in some areas of our lives. I don't know if he's 'the one' or even if he's my 'soulmate', but for now, we make each other very happy so living for the moment will suffice for now Very Happy

 

15.04.2008, 09:56 quote

lilacrose

"To some extent, even though I still have vague hopes of meeting another soul mate, I quite often find myself irked by intrusions when I want to get on with my own things (but am getting much better at dealiong with them, as they aren't really intrusions are they?), which I suppose isn't a very good sign".

oooh Stu, I'm glad I'm not the only one!!! I was talking with a friend about this the other day, how guilty that makes me feel cuz I really really DO want to put some effort in, but like my own space too much! Confused

 
 
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