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Home >> Love & Relationships >> Mystery social expert explaining the rules of attraction
22.11.2007, 17:51 quote
| Greystone wrote: |
| Still no dates yet but i put that down to my bad looks............. |
Put it down to your lack of self-esteem, my friend. You need to trace this feeling back and deal with it at source.
Even pulling the most stunning woman will not make you feel better about yourself for very long, and your constant insecurity would be liable to drive her away anyway.
I'd forget about 'seduction techniques' for a while, and learn to like yourself first.
tim
22.11.2007, 18:05 quote
| TimboDSLR wrote: | ||
Put it down to your lack of self-esteem, my friend. You need to trace this feeling back and deal with it at source. Even pulling the most stunning woman will not make you feel better about yourself for very long, and your constant insecurity would be liable to drive her away anyway. I'd forget about 'seduction techniques' for a while, and learn to like yourself first. tim |
here here Timbo
22.11.2007, 18:32 quote
| Greystone wrote: |
| I have been told that i am ugly by tons of people since i was very young. |
There we go, thats your answer Grey. It is a proven scientific fact that if you tell a child the same thing over and over again he will eventually believe it. A bit like Father Christmas does exist, etc (although i still think he does!). Sorry anyway, you have, by your own admission, been told you're ugly over and over and now you believe it. The secret is to stand in front of a mirror everyday and say to your reflection, "I'm so good looking", over and over again.
And if that doesn't work, stop following these fella's and get in touch with someone who can really help you.
22.11.2007, 18:34 quote
| TimboDSLR wrote: |
| Put it down to your lack of self-esteem, my friend. You need to trace this feeling back and deal with it at source. I'd forget about 'seduction techniques' for a while, and learn to like yourself first. |
These pick up gurus like Erik Von Markovik alias Mystery, Richard La Ruina and Adam Lyons really know what they are talking about. You will see that for yourself on the forth coming documentary "The rules of attraction" coming soon on Channel 4 on the 7th of December at 8:35pm.
22.11.2007, 18:47 quote
A serious question for you now Greystone, have you got any female FRIENDS?
The reason I ask this is because you could ask them how they feel about the 'pickup scene/community' or what-ever you call it.
I know that I joke around a bit, but you seriously cannot expect to get any other response on a message board which is openly for men and women.
I think the sort of thing that you want to talk about is something for a dedicated forum for just men.
Also, I know that it is probably not that way at all, but you make it sound like your life is entirely dedicated to trapping yourself some unsuspecting female, which IS kinda creepy........
22.11.2007, 19:14 quote
I used to have a quite a few female friends when I lived up in Staffordshire until I moved to London in 1995. Now I only have a few female aquantancies that I rarely see about town.
I don't know why women should feel shocked about men disscussing and learning techniques about how to get off with them in the real world. As the alternative is for men to continue to have bad clumsy interactions with women which will piss them off even more.
Ask a woman which she would prefer more a man to approach her who will do so in such a good stylish manner and with such skill that it will impress her. Or to be approached by a man who is bad at approaching women and whom she will most likely reject straight off.
22.11.2007, 21:16 quote
| Quote: |
| Ask a woman which she would prefer more a man to approach her who will do so in such a good stylish manner and with such skill that it will impress her. Or to be approached by a man who is bad at approaching women and whom she will most likely reject straight off. |
I would want a man who is honest and being himself, not a man who has learnt some "technique"..
What happens after the "pick-up" technique has worn off and you have to be yourself? The 2nd, 3rd, 4th date?
Or this all purely about getting laid, with no thought for a future relationship? Cos believe me Grey, if all you have is the "pick-up" with no "follow-through" your banjacked!!
22.11.2007, 22:03 quote
| curraghmore wrote: |
| I would want a man who is honest and being himself, not a man who has learnt some "technique"..
What happens after the "pick-up" technique has worn off and you have to be yourself? The 2nd, 3rd, 4th date? Or this all purely about getting laid, with no thought for a future relationship? Cos believe me Grey, if all you have is the "pick-up" with no "follow-through" your banjacked!! |
That about the size of it. If there is nothing to backup this technique then it will come to nothing.
And it is low self esteem if you are using 'techniques' to interact socially, there is no other way to look at it. This 'pick up' lark is all show, no substance, its sad but true.
Pickup scene = Zero integrity
22.11.2007, 22:54 quote
| Greystone wrote: |
| I don't know why women should feel shocked about men disscussing and learning techniques about how to get off with them in the real world. As the alternative is for men to continue to have bad clumsy interactions with women which will piss them off even more.
Ask a woman which she would prefer more a man to approach her who will do so in such a good stylish manner and with such skill that it will impress her. Or to be approached by a man who is bad at approaching women and whom she will most likely reject straight off. |
Give me "clumsy" every time.....at least it's natural.
The only guy that i've ever truly fallen madly in love with the minute I met him was so shy and inarticulate his hands shook like he had parkinsons and "um" was his every other word.....so cute.
I think it was megalone once said that he thought a woman would be able to sniff a PUA from 500 yards - yup, that's the guy I would 'reject straight off'.
Oh, and I'm not shocked, just completely baffled.
23.11.2007, 08:38 quote
Has anyone else noticed how Grey dismisses any advice given by women?? He doesn't comment on it all. Very strange.
23.11.2007, 12:10 quote
| BexBex wrote: |
| Has anyone else noticed how Grey dismisses any advice given by women?? He doesn't comment on it all. Very strange. |
Yeah... it does make me wonder why he keeps posting about the Seduction Community yet ignoring/rejecting anything anyone says. Are you looking for advice Greystone? If so, I would advise you to actually listen to what people have been saying to you here.
23.11.2007, 12:30 quote
| Greystone wrote: |
| I used to have a quite a few female friends when I lived up in Staffordshire until I moved to London in 1995. Now I only have a few female aquantancies that I rarely see about town.
I don't know why women should feel shocked about men disscussing and learning techniques about how to get off with them in the real world. As the alternative is for men to continue to have bad clumsy interactions with women which will piss them off even more. Ask a woman which she would prefer more a man to approach her who will do so in such a good stylish manner and with such skill that it will impress her. Or to be approached by a man who is bad at approaching women and whom she will most likely reject straight off. |
i'm pissed off now, look i'm only going to this again once, very loudly ........... YOUR NOT UGLY, your just not being yourself, if you stop with all this crap then you might 'get off' with someone, please just try it FFS, just go out on your own without your so called mates, and be yourself, just start up a normal conversation with a girl and let us know the results ............. and as Becky has already said if your not willing to accept advise from any of us on here , especially the girls, then your obviously beyond help, especially as all of us on here are very experienced with dating the opposite sex and we didn't need any 'pick up' techniques.
23.11.2007, 13:16 quote
| annmarie5988 wrote: | ||
Oh my god Annemarie!!!!! *runs away* 
I have written a book on this subject and I can almost make you a success with women overnight: Its called: How to pull a woman with a bag of onions! Just send £20 pounds to youcouldntpullafishoutofwater@ripuoff.com If you don't pull after reading this I guarantee to not spend all your money on blackjacks!
i'm pissed off now, look i'm only going to this again once, very loudly ........... YOUR NOT UGLY, your just not being yourself, if you stop with all this crap then you might 'get off' with someone, please just try it FFS, just go out on your own without your so called mates, and be yourself, just start up a normal conversation with a girl and let us know the results ............. and as Becky has already said if your not willing to accept advise from any of us on here , especially the girls, then your obviously beyond help, especially as all of us on here are very experienced with dating the opposite sex and we didn't need any 'pick up' techniques. |
23.11.2007, 17:54 quote
| curraghmore wrote: |
| I would want a man who is honest and being himself, not a man who has learnt some "technique".. |
| Quote: |
| What happens after the "pick-up" technique has worn off and you have to be yourself? The 2nd, 3rd, 4th date? |
Also from the womens posts I can tell they know nothing about pick up! As there are several different styles from pre-rehearsed canned routines to natural sounding conversation. There are also three main stages of pick up in most techniques which are opening, attraction building, comfort building and finally seduction. Mystery explains this in his book.
As for people who think that pick techniques are all about getting sex that is totally wrong. For example Mystery explains that it takes a minimum of 7 to 10 hours of conversation from meeting a woman to being at the stage where it is possible to have sex with her if the woman is a decent respectable woman. He also explains that the 7 to 10 hours of conversation doesn't usually take place all in one go but usually over two to three days.
23.11.2007, 18:04 quote
| Greystone wrote: | ||||
Also from the womens posts I can tell they know nothing about pick up! As there are several different styles from pre-rehearsed canned routines to natural sounding conversation. There are also three main stages of pick up in most techniques which are opening, attraction building, comfort building and finally seduction. Mystery explains this in his book. As for people who think that pick techniques are all about getting sex that is totally wrong. For example Mystery explains that it takes a minimum of 7 to 10 hours of conversation from meeting a woman to being at the stage where it is possible to have sex with her if the woman is a decent respectable woman. He also explains that the 7 to 10 hours of conversation doesn't usually take place all in one go but usually over two to three days. |
Truth be told I was actually going to say some very rude things regarding this post but I will change directions.........All I can say mate is if it works for you and you believe it can help you regarding meeting women then go for it.
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