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26.06.2008, 20:35 quote

Bliss23
Bliss23 Joined: 21 Mar 2007 Posts: 5139 Location: United Kingdom, Scotland, Edinburgh
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I know there are lots of topics on this subject, but I think none of them takes the actual issue. Also I think I should've posted in some other forum, but as the fat blokes, fat girls, fat whatever are here... Here goes nothing:


Truth is "I think fat blokes are fab!" "I think fat women are fab!" "I think fit blokes are fab!" "I think fit women are fab" should all be equal, yet they're not.

Why the fit body is considered beautiful I have no idea. I swear I don't. Maybe it's the media thing, maybe it's not. I have to agree that the fit body is considered more beautiful than the fat body. And by fit I don't mean what you'll take as "skin and bones", but good looking lined muscles.

I think the answer to this whole problem with fat blokes and fat chicks too (in spite of the chicks having more fans) is the same as the one to the question "Why do we like looking at fit people?" So when someone will be able to answer that, they'll be able to answer the other questions too.

So why do we like looking at fit people? Is it because of the image the media put in our heads? I doubt that's the single motive.

As Mussy would say, I don't need a study to prove the society finds fit bodies more appealing than fat ones or skinny ones too.

Question is when did it all change? Once upon a time there was a fat body cult. Fat people were considered beautiful and healthy. When and where did it all change?

Yesterday I've shown my best friend that "sexy chick dancing" and she said that is just wrong. And I asked her "Why, because she's fat?" She said: YE. "So why is fat wrong cause I again don't get it?" And she said: It's wrong because it's medically wrong. That's not the answer. But what is?

Thing is... The mind being loaded with media images of fit people associated with good things ain't the single problem. I for example had trouble as a kid because I was somewhat larger than the average, had trouble with the other kids and that probably affected my way of seeing the fat world too.

I'm gonna try and look for the moment when Fat or better said "With big shapes" was exchanged for fit by society.


p.s. Fat bodies are still considered hawter than thin ones in some countries and cultures. But apparently not in the World taken as a whole.
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26.06.2008, 22:12 quote

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shirazkhan Joined: 28 Jan 2007 Posts: 1166 Location: United Kingdom, Scotland, Glasgow
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Bliss23 wrote:

I'm gonna try and look for the moment when Fat or better said "With big shapes" was exchanged for fit by society.


Going to be one hell of a long wait....

 

26.06.2008, 23:17 quote

Bliss23
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Well I asked on yahoo "When did fit become attractive?" (And when did it become attractive in exchange for fat) And I got two answers so far... One of them's quite interesting:

In the past, being larger meant you had enough money to be able to afford good food, while those with 'fitter' bodies were probably seen as lower class laborers.

In today's society, with all this technology, it's so much easier to sit around and get fat, so being chubbier shows lack of discipline, while being 'fit' shows you have an active lifestyle apart from taking advantage of technology that could easily make you a lazy fat ***.

So "when"?
When technology advanced.


The second one is:

in ancient greece

science and all the deadly consequences of being overweight and unhealthy.
also our instinct wants us to go for strong healthy mates to produce healthy offspring.

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26.06.2008, 23:41 quote

rocketgirl

"also our instinct wants us to go for strong healthy mates to produce healthy offspring."

Nah! The father of my kids was 45 yrs old, about 20 stone when our eldest was born - and 50yrs old and about 18 stone (and walked with a stick due to disability) when our younger lad was born.
Now aged 15 and 19 they are 6'1 and 6'6 and both VERY fit, and do weightlifting, cycling, run etc. Oh and both me and their dad smoke and both boys were nearly 10 lb when born.

And my sister's hubby was skinny and 'fit' and non-smokers/veggies yet all 3 of their boys were born early and under 5 lb in weight, and are short, skinny unfit teenagers now....

So, I dont go with that theory....

 

27.06.2008, 10:25 quote

deepthroath

Interesting points raised.

I am fat. I dont understand why anyone would want to look at/sleep with me/touch my fat bits. But thats just me, and my boyfriend does. He sees nothing wrong with it, but i do. However, i have a great ability in being able to put on a confidence that maybe isnt real, but makes me feel better.

again - Very Happy Personal choice.

But if the people who do like larger ladies are reading, please answer me this:-

Why?

Thanks xx

 

27.06.2008, 13:24 quote

shiner25

I think that while genetics etc play their part (we look for the fittest/most able to produce healthy offspring) it doesn't stop there. We aren't just slaves to our genetic imperatives and the need to procreate. If we were, infertile couples wouldn't stick together and women would only want men who were good at fighting...lol

It's so complicated and society's current views
play such a huge part that it's impossible to understand. The Greeks ruined the way we look at men by their obsession with the perfect male form -hence all the buffed up sculptures - and our view is basically a Greek one.

Personally I reckon beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I certainly don't have a body type, attractiveness is more about confidence, humour how you treat people etc.

Hhmm. Sorry if that didn't make sense I kinda went into rant mode.....

 

27.06.2008, 13:26 quote

shiner25

AND another thing!! I don't get why society pushes us towards women who weigh 8 stone - half those girls on the catwalk are ill and personally I find that just as unattractive as someone who's 30 stone.

 

28.06.2008, 13:13 quote

juicyduck

Shiner25

I wish there were more people that think like you. . . yes I am what i expect people would class as fat, and i lead an active lifestyle, and to be honest if someone doesn't like me just because i carry some extra weight, then at the end of the day i don't want to know them either, there loss

Lucy

 

28.06.2008, 13:31 quote

moose666

DeepthroatH wrote:

I dont understand why anyone would want to look at/sleep with me/touch my fat bits.


Speaking only for myself of course; for me it's because I think women are meant to be soft, cuddly, curvy and comforting. That's why I find larger women more attractive than thin ones.

 

28.06.2008, 23:07 quote

Bliss23
Bliss23 Joined: 21 Mar 2007 Posts: 5139 Location: United Kingdom, Scotland, Edinburgh
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moose666 wrote:
I think women are meant to be soft, cuddly, curvy and comforting.


That's very nicely put... As for cuddly, curvy and comforting... That should go both ways. However the thought of "Why women should be soft and men be hard?" did cross my mind right now. Bygone. Neva mind. Razz
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28.06.2008, 23:46 quote

moose666

Bliss23 wrote:
moose666 wrote:
I think women are meant to be soft, cuddly, curvy and comforting.


That's very nicely put... As for cuddly, curvy and comforting... That should go both ways. However the thought of "Why women should be soft and men be hard?" did cross my mind right now. Bygone. Neva mind. Razz


It's just the way of nature isn't it. The woman is the mother and the home maker, the man is the hunter and the one who provides... that's basically how it was meant to be, despite women's lib and all that bollox.

 

29.06.2008, 09:21 quote

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Joined: 31 Dec 2006 Posts: 1 Location: United Kingdom, England, Tyne and Wear
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I love curvy women...the larger lady!
I've dated everything from a size 8 (I think) to a 24, and maybe the reason I prefer curvy women is my first gf, the size 8, was a complete pain in the backside, whereas I've had so much fun with the rest!
A few of my exes have been very shy at first, wondering what we see in them, and why we'd want to be seen in public with them, but the simple matter is 'we just do'!
I've seen some stick thin lasses who look awful...and some larger ladies as well...but if you showed me 2 women who were smart and well groomed I'd probably go for the BBW most of the time!

 

30.06.2008, 20:01 quote

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s6boystu Joined: 06 Mar 2008 Posts: 2360 Location: United Kingdom, England, Essex
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i like 'little' women... petite i believe they are called, no idea why, it's just what floats my boat. I think the hole thing is basicly the same as the blonde or brunette thing. some prefer blondes, some prefer brunettes, some prefer slim / athletic others prefer "cuddly, curvy and comforting"

If i'm honest, the size of someone isn't that important to me.

sometimes the slim /athletic women are so far up their own arses thinking they are better than everyone else because of how they look, that it put's you off completely ! Confused
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03.07.2008, 14:15 quote

deepthroath

s6boystu wrote:


sometimes the slim /athletic women are so far up their own arses thinking they are better than everyone else because of how they look, that it put's you off completely ! Confused


So are you saying that fat people cant be arrogant and stuck up their own arses? And or think that they look better than anyone else?

Though i may have confidence issues, i know i am not ugly and am happy to give a guy the brush off if i dont think he is good enough for me.

I am also in a really bad mood today so i apologise now for any nasty comments.

Embarassed

 

03.07.2008, 14:42 quote

angellus28
angellus28 Joined: 09 Jun 2008 Posts: 29 Location: United Kingdom, Scotland, Aberdeenshire
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I think the important thing really is not how you look outside, but how you look inside Wink

I´ve dated fit women and women with a few extra pounds, and to tell the truth, I found out that its not if you are fit ou a little fat.. It´s how you feel with that person..

I am a little over weight, I mean I´m that Big, I just have what people call beer belly.. Razz The odd thing is that I dont Drink LOL...

But people here where i lived (Portugal) judges others by their looks..

 
 
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