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26.08.2006, 13:52 quote
This feature may already be there, but I can't seem to find it...
I'd love to know which profiles have browsed my profile - it would be nice to see who's looking 
The way this works on other dating sites I've been to, is that if you don't want people to know that you have seen their profile, you can't see who have had a look at your profile (it's only fair...)
26.08.2006, 14:03 quote
| NiceScandinavian wrote: |
| This feature may already be there, but I can't seem to find it...
I'd love to know which profiles have browsed my profile - it would be nice to see who's looking
The way this works on other dating sites I've been to, is that if you don't want people to know that you have seen their profile, you can't see who have had a look at your profile (it's only fair...) |
hi there..
believe this may be of some help to your question..
http://www.flirtbox.net/flirtbox_help/whos-viewed-your-profile.html
26.08.2006, 14:42 quote
We've already discussed this, the problem being - people would switch the feature off when they're browsing (so nobody would know they're being looked at) and switch it back on when they want to know who's looking at them.
Toby tried it, and the community said "ugh" - so it's gone.
28.08.2006, 08:36 quote
Umh, read the other thread and wasn't that impressed with the arguments...
This feature works really well on a lot of other pages (especially Scandinavian ones). The advantages are that you get to see which kind of people are attracted to your profile - and that you can write that person who visits you every day but never writes you, because they think they're not good enough (or something).
Also it's really quite addictive 
But, it seems that the active members of the community has rejected the idea because of this:
| swissrebel wrote: |
| We've already discussed this, the problem being - people would switch the feature off when they're browsing (so nobody would know they're being looked at) and switch it back on when they want to know who's looking at them.
Toby tried it, and the community said "ugh" - so it's gone. |
There is a really easy way to get around this:
The way it should work is that when the feature is switched on, other users should be able to see if the person has browsed their page - regardless of wether the feature was turned on when the actual browsing was done.
In this way you can't just turn the feature off when you're browsing and on when you're not to see who visits your profile.
Of course, when the feature is turned off, it should not be logged who visits your page, so people can't turn it on for 10 minutes to see who has visited them...
It's really that easy to avoid abuse... Those people who do not wish to be seen will not be. Those who do will be. And nobody can abuse the system...
And believe me, this will enchance the user experience - there are some commercial sites where this is the biggest selling point (along with being able to see pictures) (yeah, I realise this isn't a commercial site, but it works for commercial sites because users enjoy using it...)
28.08.2006, 10:13 quote
i still say no.. cos i dont want people to know..
and also when you browse thru profiles sometimes you make look at a persons profile a few times, not realising you've already seen them.. so the results could be of people looking at your profile a mistake, instead of them actually liking you and too scared to make a move
28.08.2006, 10:24 quote
| NiceScandinavian wrote: |
| It's really that easy to avoid abuse... Those people who do not wish to be seen will not be. Those who do will be. And nobody can abuse the system... |
Nobody can abuse the system? No, this just means people will switch the feature off almost permenantly - only flicking it on for a couple of seconds to see their profile "views". Then, once it's off again - nobody will see that they've been viewed by this person. See?
| NiceScandinavian wrote: |
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And believe me, this will enchance the user experience - there are some commercial sites where this is the biggest selling point (along with being able to see pictures) (yeah, I realise this isn't a commercial site, but it works for commercial sites because users enjoy using it...) |
Oh yay, another person bringing commercial sites into this - no, commercial sites have this feature because it provides an "invasion" into someone's user habits. People will pay for that. And come on, are you kidding? A site's biggest selling point is showing who's viewed your profile? Or even the ability to view images?!!? You're joking me, a dating site's biggest selling point is it's number of users. This site's biggest "selling point" is that it's run by one guy, for his users. Not to make money. Hence if we don't like someone, he gets rid of it.
I've yet to hear one decent reason why this option actually does anything useful besides give away our browsing habits. If someone looks at your profile and doesn't message you - take the hint and move on. Odds are, you'll only end up messaging them through some other means, perhaps search or "recently online" and be rejected that way - or perhaps not? I need a better reason than this to be swayed over to the side of convincing Toby to impliment it.
Saying all this, i'm stubborn
If the feature's there, I will abuse it, i'll switch it on only when I need it, which will be 1 second to see all my latest views. Then off it goes again. A lot of people on this site are similarly private about their browsing habits and I guarantee will do the same.
28.08.2006, 11:33 quote
| swissrebel wrote: | ||
Nobody can abuse the system? No, this just means people will switch the feature off almost permenantly - only flicking it on for a couple of seconds to see their profile "views". Then, once it's off again - nobody will see that they've been viewed by this person. See? |
Please read my post again. I very clearly stated that when the feature is turned off it should NOT log who visits your profile. So people cannot just turn it on to see their visitors (because as long as feature is turned off, it does not log...) and then turn it off again.
And if they turn it on, people they have visited with the system turned off should be able to see the visits.
It's fair enough that people don't want people to see that they have visited their profile - but then they themselves shouldn't be able see who have visited their own profile.
28.08.2006, 11:43 quote
| NiceScandinavian wrote: | ||||
Please read my post again. I very clearly stated that when the feature is turned off it should NOT log who visits your profile. So people cannot just turn it on to see their visitors (because as long as feature is turned off, it does not log...) and then turn it off again. And if they turn it on, people they have visited with the system turned off should be able to see the visits. It's fair enough that people don't want people to see that they have visited their profile - but then they themselves shouldn't be able see who have visited their own profile. |
That's a fair point. Now answer my question. Nobody's done it successfully so far, and please don't refer to commercial sites.
How exactly is this feature beneficial?
28.08.2006, 11:43 quote
| swissrebel wrote: | ||
Oh yay, another person bringing commercial sites into this - no, commercial sites have this feature because it provides an "invasion" into someone's user habits. People will pay for that. And come on, are you kidding? A site's biggest selling point is showing who's viewed your profile? Or even the ability to view images?!!? You're joking me, a dating site's biggest selling point is it's number of users. This site's biggest "selling point" is that it's run by one guy, for his users. Not to make money. Hence if we don't like someone, he gets rid of it. I've yet to hear one decent reason why this option actually does anything useful besides give away our browsing habits. If someone looks at your profile and doesn't message you - take the hint and move on. Odds are, you'll only end up messaging them through some other means, perhaps search or "recently online" and be rejected that way - or perhaps not? I need a better reason than this to be swayed over to the side of convincing Toby to impliment it. Saying all this, i'm stubborn If the feature's there, I will abuse it, i'll switch it on only when I need it, which will be 1 second to see all my latest views. Then off it goes again. A lot of people on this site are similarly private about their browsing habits and I guarantee will do the same. |
I realise you take personal offense to this proposal, which is why you should be able to turn it off and never worry about it again.
For the rest of us (who don't really care if the beautiful or the less attractive or even the plain crazy people knows we're looking at them), the feature would be great.
| swissrebel wrote: |
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If someone looks at your profile and doesn't message you - take the hint and move on. |
This is just plain wrong - often people just keep browsing after seeing a profile and remind themselves to write later. Several times I've striked (that's GOT to be the wrong word) up a conversation with people just saying "Thanks for visiting my profile ;o)" or been approached the same way. In fact the most serious online dating relationship I've had started that way. It's just a nice and relaxed way of starting up a conversation.
28.08.2006, 11:45 quote
Nope, it's called fluke. Occasionally something good with come from even the most ill-conceived feature.
However, not the majority of cases are like this.
28.08.2006, 11:46 quote
| twistedvoilet wrote: |
| i still say no.. cos i dont want people to know.. |
So turn the feature off...
| twistedvoilet wrote: |
| and also when you browse thru profiles sometimes you make look at a persons profile a few times, not realising you've already seen them.. so the results could be of people looking at your profile a mistake, instead of them actually liking you and too scared to make a move |
So you write them and get turned down - and move on - it is the nature of online dating, you know
28.08.2006, 11:50 quote
| swissrebel wrote: |
| Nope, it's called fluke. Occasionally something good with come from even the most ill-conceived feature.
However, not the majority of cases are like this. |
Let's turn the discussion around. If the abuse issue can be solved and the users who does not wish to use the feature can opt out, why is it a bad feature?
28.08.2006, 11:51 quote
| swissrebel wrote: |
| Nope, it's called fluke. Occasionally something good with come from even the most ill-conceived feature.
However, not the majority of cases are like this. |
Oh... A fluke would be once or twice - 10+ makes a pattern...
28.08.2006, 11:53 quote
| NiceScandinavian wrote: | ||
Let's turn the discussion around. If the abuse issue can be solved and the users who does not wish to use the feature can opt out, why is it a bad feature? |
Because there are plenty of other features Toby can spend his time on that would be more beneficial to the community - also, I know he's not gotten as far as making "custom setting" features.
Plus, and this one is most important of all - he's already stated that a custom option showing "only females" for straight gay males will slow the site down - this is called a "user-specific" feature. A "profile views" that is user specific (IE, either on or off) will slow the site down for those of us who don't use it, not just those who do.
28.08.2006, 11:54 quote
| NiceScandinavian wrote: | ||
Oh... A fluke would be once or twice - 10+ makes a pattern... |
Not on a site of 160,000+ users it doesn't.
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