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Poll: What's your budget for a hotel ?

What's your budget for a hotel ?
zero - I need to stay somewhere for fre
44%
 44%  [ 4 ]
not more then 50 GBP / night
11%
 11%  [ 1 ]
not more then 65 GBP / night
11%
 11%  [ 1 ]
not more then 80 GBP / night
22%
 22%  [ 2 ]
not more then 100 GBP / night
11%
 11%  [ 1 ]
Total Votes : 9
 

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04.03.2007, 02:24 quote

Cazzabee
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spdarkhorse wrote:
Im just reading through the web site you put the link for - looks a good scheme, the only thing I cant find is a page for a homeless person to apply to get on it!! (I dont know but I think that might be a flaw with it).



Red wrote:
And who deals with the psychological effects of homelessness? Or even the reasons they become homeless in the first place?

I dont know, but somehow you have to get in a mental position that being homless isnt for you and that you want to change your situation


This is where I think the confusion comes in.....do you want to change your situation or are you quite happy the way you are SC????
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04.03.2007, 09:35 quote

Anonymous

spdarkhorse wrote:
Im just reading through the web site you put the link for - looks a good scheme, the only thing I cant find is a page for a homeless person to apply to get on it!! (I dont know but I think that might be a flaw with it).



Red wrote:
And who deals with the psychological effects of homelessness? Or even the reasons they become homeless in the first place?

I dont know, but somehow you have to get in a mental position that being homless isnt for you and that you want to change your situation

And there lies the crux Sparky! Rehabilitation is not easy. For some homeless the mental hurdles are so great that it's liking trying to come off an addiction. The fear of intigrating back into society is a very scarey thing.... and who's to say that average society is the right thing anyway? Some homeless people actually find it easier than all the unspoken rules of living in the ratrace.

A high percentage of forces people (mainly guys) come out after 15- 20 odd years and can't cope without the structure and discipline that has been the mainstay of their lives for so long. Yeah it's hard work, but for half their lives at least they've not had to worry about the next meal or a roof over their heads and council tax is subsidised. Life on the streets becomes easier than having to adjust to a 'normal' home life.

I can't remember the stats now, but there is an inordinately high number of suicides/divorces and homelessness in ex forces people. Perhaps more needs to be done to help these people adjust BEFORE they come out.

 

04.03.2007, 11:05 quote

Anonymous

scottie69 wrote:
but dude you dont have a home to bring a lady home to! your priorities seem the wrong way around. save some money, get a flat, then look for a proper job and a woman, im telling you, the only kind of woman your going to attract in your present situation is a homeless woman, and their aint to many of them about is there? once you stop sleeping on the streets or heath, things will get alot brighter for you, you have to see that mate!
But for most of my adult life I had a flat and work on and off. But I still couldn't get a woman! I tried to get off with hundreds of women when I was living up in Stoke but couldn't so moved to London as there are more women and places to meet them there. The problem is that women just don't seem to fancy me. Sad

I have considered trying to get a part time job though. I was offered one by a mate who was leaving his job as a cleaner in a pub in Kingston, but I turned it down because it was seven days a week, with no day off in the week. It was three hours a day in the morning at 5 pounds an hour.

 

04.03.2007, 11:11 quote

spdarkhorse
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stonecastle wrote:
I tried to get off with hundreds of women when I was living up in Stoke


How many women friends did you have come round to the flat that you didnt want to 'get off with'? Perhaps your looking at this from the wrong direction, look at getting friends first and then see how things go. Even if you dont fancy them, the company could be fun and they might reccomend you to their friends. I was friends with some of the bar staff in the local - didnt fancy them, but we all got on well, and from that I met some of their friends and they made life interesting for a bit.

 

04.03.2007, 11:16 quote

Anonymous

spdarkhorse wrote:
How many women friends did you have come round to the flat that you didnt want to 'get off with'? Perhaps your looking at this from the wrong direction, look at getting friends first and then see how things go.
I had tons of friends when I was living up in Stoke and a large proportion of those were women but none of them would go out with me! Women just don't seem interested in me at all.

 

04.03.2007, 11:21 quote

Anonymous

stonecastle wrote:
scottie69 wrote:
but dude you dont have a home to bring a lady home to! your priorities seem the wrong way around. save some money, get a flat, then look for a proper job and a woman, im telling you, the only kind of woman your going to attract in your present situation is a homeless woman, and their aint to many of them about is there? once you stop sleeping on the streets or heath, things will get alot brighter for you, you have to see that mate!
But for most of my adult life I had a flat and work on and off. But I still couldn't get a woman! I tried to get off with hundreds of women when I was living up in Stoke but couldn't so moved to London as there are more women and places to meet them there. The problem is that women just don't seem to fancy me. Sad

I have considered trying to get a part time job though. I was offered one by a mate who was leaving his job as a cleaner in a pub in Kingston, but I turned it down because it was seven days a week, with no day off in the week. It was three hours a day in the morning at 5 pounds an hour.
You turned it down? It was only 3 hours a day. ffs. Thats nothing.

 

04.03.2007, 11:37 quote

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stonecastle wrote:
spdarkhorse wrote:
How many women friends did you have come round to the flat that you didnt want to 'get off with'? Perhaps your looking at this from the wrong direction, look at getting friends first and then see how things go.
I had tons of friends when I was living up in Stoke and a large proportion of those were women but none of them would go out with me! Women just don't seem interested in me at all.


So its not your personality that is a problem there is it? You have loads of friends up in Stoke who like you for who you are, but they dont see you as a partner. I get a feeling that you see someone you like and think "Aha! A nice woman" and then when you chat you come accross as desperate - and that isnt attractive. However the ladies who are just friends perhaps never see the desperate side of you directed at them and enjoy your comapny for you being you. I think you should see a nice woman and think about being friends first and then dating later perhaps?



As for the homeless thing, and working, was there a reason that you didnt take the part time job? £100 a week isnt lots but its an income and it doesnt take up a whole day - still time to get out and do what you want for the rest of the day

 

04.03.2007, 11:39 quote

spdarkhorse
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This thread is confusing me now - working, budget for london, psychology of the homeless....

 

04.03.2007, 12:00 quote

Anonymous

guitargirl wrote:
stonecastle wrote:
scottie69 wrote:
but dude you dont have a home to bring a lady home to! your priorities seem the wrong way around. save some money, get a flat, then look for a proper job and a woman, im telling you, the only kind of woman your going to attract in your present situation is a homeless woman, and their aint to many of them about is there? once you stop sleeping on the streets or heath, things will get alot brighter for you, you have to see that mate!
But for most of my adult life I had a flat and work on and off. But I still couldn't get a woman! I tried to get off with hundreds of women when I was living up in Stoke but couldn't so moved to London as there are more women and places to meet them there. The problem is that women just don't seem to fancy me. Sad

I have considered trying to get a part time job though. I was offered one by a mate who was leaving his job as a cleaner in a pub in Kingston, but I turned it down because it was seven days a week, with no day off in the week. It was three hours a day in the morning at 5 pounds an hour.
You turned it down? It was only 3 hours a day. ffs. Thats nothing.


yeah i agree its only 21 hours a week, so its actually a part time job... thats nothing..
when i left my live-in postion job i had to get two jobs to support myself and buy furniture for my flat and i was working everyday and doing so many hours it was unreal, but that was only the only way i could get what i needed

 

04.03.2007, 13:31 quote

Anonymous

stonecastle wrote:

I have considered trying to get a part time job though. I was offered one by a mate who was leaving his job as a cleaner in a pub in Kingston, but I turned it down because it was seven days a week, with no day off in the week. It was three hours a day in the morning at 5 pounds an hour.


well stoney, i dont quite understand why you turned down the offer of that job, particularly when the only other thing you seem to be doing (as far as we are aware) is selling the big issue and coming on dating sites to try and find a woman. im not here to try n tell you how to live your life, each to their own and all that and people here should respect that you have a right to live your life the way you see fit, as long as it doesnt infringe on another persons rights or liberties.

i dont know if you are happy living the way you do, as a homeless person sleeping rough, or whether you are actually stuck in a deep rut and have become acustomed to your way of life? as far as women turning you down goes, i dont think i or anyone else here could possibly say what the problem is without actually seeing you approach women and watching what you do. it could be that you are too forward, not forward enough, your conversation might not be stimulating, your body language could be misleading, you might not speak to women respectfully blah blah, it can be many things, but without actually seeing you or knowing you, nobody here could possibly say for sure.

one thing that some people seem to agree on is that for someone living on the streets, it seems a bit topsy turvy that you are spending time on forums (not just this one because i know you are on pof as well) looking for a woman, when what would benefit you much more would be to get back into the rat race so to speak by getting some work, getting a place to stay sorted out and then building things from there. but like i say, each to their own.

 

04.03.2007, 13:56 quote

spdarkhorse
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stonecastle wrote:
spdarkhorse wrote:
How many women friends did you have come round to the flat that you didnt want to 'get off with'? Perhaps your looking at this from the wrong direction, look at getting friends first and then see how things go.
I had tons of friends when I was living up in Stoke and a large proportion of those were women but none of them would go out with me! Women just don't seem interested in me at all.


Ive just had a walk to town and back - thinking time as such, and I think about all sorts of rubbish. Anyway, one thought I had here was thet read back through this thread Stonecastle. As far as I can read between us we think you have these problems (we - Im not sure if you think they are all problems)
You have no Girlfriend
You are homeless and sleep rough
You are unemployed

If you dont mind, here were my walking thoughts

OK so the chance of one of the regular posters agreeing to a date might not be a great one, so we cant help out directly there. Perhaps drop the number of posts where you mention you are single to perhaps 1 in 5? I think most people here are sympathetic to single men and appreciate that thats why we are here. Let the rest of your personality shine through, your knowledge and humour so we can get to know you a bit better. Then with a bit of luck someone might read the posts and think 'I know a girl who would be ideal for SC' (PS people - if any of you think the same for me 'there would be an ideal girl for SP'; then let me know...)

I dont know or need to know the reason for you being homeless, are you wanting to get off the streets? Read back through this thread and look at the people offering you advise and support, GG and Red seam to know and care about the situation with the homeless, perhaps PM them and they mihjt help you out. Oh, as a tip though, they might not help if you end with the line 'lets go for a date'

And the job thing? Well are you ready to get a job? I had a word with a shop manager and he finds it incredulous that you turned down 21 hours a week working for above the minimum wage (I think it is isnt it?), it would make selling the big issue easier, you would need to sell 200 less each week! Add another part time job, and OK its not the top wage but another 20 hours and you could be getting £800 a month, enough for a flat, and spare to take a lady out on a date or 2 (every so often the girls go a bit mental and decide that sitting on a park bench isnt good enough that night and actually want to go for a meal, or the cinema, or for a drink)


And finally, because we are all dead nosey, let us know how it gets along. Things will change if you want them to, and the hekp is there if you need it.

 

04.03.2007, 18:01 quote

Anonymous

spdarkhorse wrote:
I think you should see a nice woman and think about being friends first and then dating later perhaps?
But none of the women I meet except the two I said where I blew the next meeting arrangements want to meet me again. Most wont talk to me, the ones that do when it comes to asking to see them again turn me down either becuase they are seeing someone or don't fancy me. When I was first in London I used to hang around alot with the New Age crusty types of Reclaim the Streets and the squatting movement, the women of whom should be the easiest to get off with. But I didn't have any luck with them either.

 

04.03.2007, 18:03 quote

Anonymous

stonecastle wrote:
spdarkhorse wrote:
I think you should see a nice woman and think about being friends first and then dating later perhaps?
But none of the women I meet except the two I said where I blew the next meeting arrangements want to meet me again. Most wont talk to me, the ones that do when it comes to asking to see them again turn me down either becuase they are seeing someone or don't fancy me. When I was first in London I used to hang around alot with the New Age crusty types of Reclaim the Streets and the squatting movement, the women of whom should be the easiest to get off with. But I didn't have any luck with them either.


Sorry but ...

"lol"

 

04.03.2007, 19:37 quote

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I read a lot of books about man's more primitive nature. We evolved to live on the African savannah, and our natural instincts are designed for this.
It's all extremely interesting stuff, and I find it incredibly useful in day to day life.
It helps me to understand peoples behaviours and motives, why men like power tools and women like shopping etc.
Obviously these are sweeping generalisations and don't apply equally to all people, but as a rough guide it is pretty accurate.

When we were evolving, life was a lot tougher than we have it nowadays and when a woman was pregnant or nursing her child, she would have been extremely vulnerable. This is why women seek out men who are caring, strong, and who have access to resources. Men like to feel that they are looking after and protecting their partner and attending to their needs.
This is a very cynical and analytical way of looking at things, but it is often so true that it is scary. It is also what we would call outdated and sexist, so don't take it too seriously.

In the modern world it is slightly skewed, but you can still see the patterns if you look hard enough.

When a man and a woman go out to dinner, the man often has a strong desire to pay (something that may even be frowned upon nowadays) This is because he wants to tell the woman that if she mates with him, he has the resources and good nature to look after her when she is pregnant.
Same thing when he buys her flowers or little presents. Same thing when he buys status symbols.
Resources.

Stoney, if you want to attract a woman, you need to acquire some resources. If these were caveman times, the object of your affections would shun you for the guy with the big warm cave because if she mated with you she and her baby would most likely die.

You don't have to be loaded to have these resources, and being stupid with money only demonstrates that you are reckless, but you do need the basics.
You will not get a woman before you get shelter.

You seem like a reasonably intelligent guy- why don't you sit in a library one day and read some books on the subject? I suggest starting with 'human instinct' by Robert Winston- he has an engaging writing style.

Another point- when you say about nobody fancying you, you are really saying 'several other women have rejected me- I am an unsuitable mate'. Do you think that women would find that attractive?

Before I sit back and wait for the flames to start, I would like to say that this kind of thing is by no means black and white and is an extremely stereotypical and simplistic way of looking at the world. Not all of it applies to all people and there are exceptions to every rule. Take it with a pinch of salt....

 

04.03.2007, 19:59 quote

Anonymous

actually doctorbeat, you do have some valid points in your post..

i also think age is a big thing too, a few years ago i would of wanted someone for diff reasons then i do now.. as i get older my needs change so what i want in a man changes too

 
 
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