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03.03.2007, 18:22 quote
| aDecentGuy wrote: | ||||
There is no need for that, go to the council, get a hostel, claim benefits ... no wait Get a freakin job!!! |
It really isn't as easy as all that Keiron. You need an address to claim benefits, but can't get somewhere to live without proof of income!! It's a mad circle.
03.03.2007, 18:30 quote
| aDecentGuy wrote: |
| Complete bollocks sunshine.
I was homeless when I come out of jail, i was put in a bed n breakfast for 2 nights, then a hostel for 3 months, then I got this flat. I was paid enough benefits for me to live on and to search for work. There is always work around, even if its turnip cleaning, its gets you off the street. You have no excuse pal. London is a mess now because of you lazy lot. |
That's because people who have been in jail get government help to 'reintergrate'. Enough already!! FFS!!! Stoney may not be my idea of the ideal man... but leave him be.
Getting back into the ratrace is not as easy as it seems. There's a lot more than just a job and somewhere to live involved. Many homeless people need help to 'reintegrate' back into society for as many reasons as there are homeless. Unfortunately, the government deem that it's upto society and the individual to help more needy people.
03.03.2007, 18:33 quote
| Cazzabee wrote: |
| You do have a choice though....why stay in London if its so hard to find a job and a place to stay??? |
Because it's not much better anywhere else Cazz, and London, due to the size of it, does at least have more facilities for washing and being fed if you're prepared to do the foot work.
03.03.2007, 18:34 quote
| spdarkhorse wrote: | ||
Are you really as small as your photo so that you can fit in the sink? Oh, being homeless isnt always a choice, but Im sure there are ways to get back on your feet easily enough - friends will let you use an address for receiving mail, and perhaps to keep a good set of clothes for interviews, a couple of weeks working cash in hand labouring, or work over the summer at a farm (see where all the imigrants go to work) for free board and cash in hand, save and enough to get a room, then your on your way again. |
And who deals with the psychological effects of homelessness? Or even the reasons they become homeless in the first place?
03.03.2007, 18:36 quote
| guitargirl wrote: |
| Well, if you can use the net for chatting, maybe you should be using it to find work? Plenty of job sites about. |
And the monment he tells a prospective employer he's homeless? Where do they send the application forms? And even if he gets through an interview without giving his lack of address away (tho highly unlikely), where do they send his letter telling him he has/hasn't got the job?
03.03.2007, 18:38 quote
| guitargirl wrote: |
| And i know for a fact of you were to get a hopsital job, you would be entitled to accomodation at the hosp. Job, wages and a home in one. |
Sounds great... but back to my last message.... where do they send the application form or letter informing him whether he got it or not?
03.03.2007, 18:40 quote
http://www.bitc.org.uk/take_action/in_the_community/employability/business_action_on_homelessness/
This is a good scheme, BAOH, which is part of the charity Business in the Community, was launched in 1998 with the aim of creating a partnership with the corporate world to equip homeless people with the skills to gain and sustain employment. Over the past five years, more than 200 companies have provided work placements for 1,700 homeless people in 22 UK cities.
A key component in the ready to work scheme is the job coach. A coach from a partner company is assigned to clients for six months to help support and structure the job search. Marks & Spencer, which has provided 700 BAOH placements through its Marks and Start scheme, has gone one further.
"Each placement is paired with an experienced M&S employee to work alongside them and this helps build confidence and self-esteem," says EJ Walker, the retailer's community programme manager. "The buddy system teaches homeless placements to come out of their shells and work in a retail environment."
Over 40% of homeless people placed with M&S have gone on to paid work with the company. But even when this happens, support has to continue if that employment is to be sustained. "A job coach is vital during this transitional period when someone is coming off benefits and sheltered accommodation,"
03.03.2007, 18:41 quote
| redoctober wrote: | ||
And the monment he tells a prospective employer he's homeless? Where do they send the application forms? And even if he gets through an interview without giving his lack of address away (tho highly unlikely), where do they send his letter telling him he has/hasn't got the job? |
for example, nhs jobs website do everything by email. He couild use one of his hostel addresses for post, Im sure theyd agree.
03.03.2007, 18:50 quote
| guitargirl wrote: | ||||
for example, nhs jobs website do everything by email. He couild use one of his hostel addresses for post, Im sure theyd agree. |
as for this:
http://www.bitc.org.uk/take_action/in_the_community/employability/business_action_on_homelessness/
sounds excellent. My only question (cos can't be bothered to read right this minute
03.03.2007, 18:55 quote
| redoctober wrote: | ||||||
as for this: http://www.bitc.org.uk/take_action/in_the_community/employability/business_action_on_homelessness/ sounds excellent. My only question (cos can't be bothered to read right this minute |
03.03.2007, 19:02 quote
| guitargirl wrote: | ||||||||
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There you go Stoney!
03.03.2007, 19:11 quote
Well you know, like I said about the hosp jobs, anyone who is emplyed by the NHS trust is entitled to accomodation on the hospital grounds, its about £175 a motnh which comes out of the wages. Some of my friends have rented these flats and theyre ace, furnished bedrooms, communal kitchen, shared bathroom, shared communal lounge. Usually about 2-4 persons per flat. Plus you have all the extras of being NHS staff - lots of discounts all over the place, cheap food, free use of hosp pool and gym, or at least a heavily discounted local gym. Ffs we are hiring people from Poland etc etc whilst our own men and women are homeless, hungry and unemployed. (They are f*cking good workers though). Plus the NHS pay for you to do courses, anything from simple IT courses right up to Masters degree's.
As I said in the SC thread in the other forum, I will tart him up a cv and submit it if he wants, as much as he annoys me with the endless "getting off with women" stories, I do feel very strongly about people and community. And I feel everyone has a right to a place to call home, free healthcare and a half decent quality of life etc, even though he does annoy me lol
03.03.2007, 19:14 quote
| guitargirl wrote: |
| Well you know, like I said about the hosp jobs, anyone who is emplyed by the NHS trust is entitled to accomodation on the hospital grounds, its about £175 a motnh which comes out of the wages. Some of my friends have rented these flats and theyre ace, furnished bedrooms, communal kitchen, shared bathroom, shared communal lounge. Usually about 2-4 persons per flat. Plus you have all the extras of being NHS staff - lots of discounts all over the place, cheap food, free use of hosp pool and gym, or at least a heavily discounted local gym. Ffs we are hiring people from Poland etc etc whilst our own men and women are homeless, hungry and unemployed. (They are f*cking good workers though). Plus the NHS pay for you to do courses, anything from simple IT courses right up to Masters degree's.
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Blimey! Gissa job!!
03.03.2007, 19:17 quote
| redoctober wrote: | ||
Blimey! Gissa job!! |
03.03.2007, 23:31 quote
Im just reading through the web site you put the link for - looks a good scheme, the only thing I cant find is a page for a homeless person to apply to get on it!! (I dont know but I think that might be a flaw with it).
| Red wrote: |
| And who deals with the psychological effects of homelessness? Or even the reasons they become homeless in the first place? |
I dont know, but somehow you have to get in a mental position that being homless isnt for you and that you want to change your situation
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