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09.07.2007, 21:56 quote

samatron
samatron Joined: 24 May 2007 Posts: 219 Location: United Kingdom, England, Greater Manchester
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Ironpyrites wrote:
Hmm the friend zone always a bad place to be. If I fancy them I tend to avoid the friend zone in the first place. I personaly dont think you can be friends with them if you had those kind of feelings for them. Im sure many will contest my statement.


That sounds about right to me.
Only be her friend if you have decided that you don't want anything more with her. Otherwise, you're being really hard on yourself, and, even worse, you're lying to her!
I really don't think that the friend zone is reversible, and if it is possible to unring the bell, as she sees you as a nice guy, she'd probably use you.
That stuff you said about her discussing her bf problems with you is a classic indicator that she doesn't see you as a potential bed-mate!
There are loads of great people out there that you can meet and hit it off with. Never think that just because you're into this girl that there isn't someone else that you'll meet soon that will blow your mind!
I used to get really into individual girls. I think that's a bad habit to fall into. You can never attract someone if you have that idolising mindset. The person you're attracted to can sense it in how you come across, and it isn't attractive to them. I'd say that sometimes I still recognise the start of a crush, and the moment I notice that I'm starting to like someone, that's the time to put them out of my mind and start to look for someone else!
I don't think that's unromantic, as I don't think love has anything to do with crushes!

 

10.07.2007, 06:18 quote

bliss23

This is an amazing answer. Very Happy Great goin', Samatron!

 

10.07.2007, 11:55 quote

Daspikey
Daspikey Joined: 30 Apr 2007 Posts: 361 Location: United Kingdom, England, Hampshire
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Friends zones suck if you actually fancy them... best thing back of start dating other people and she might actually realise she likes you.. or not.. but worst thing to do is act like a lost puppy.. learnt that the hard way.. now its fun fun fun in the sun sun sun..

 

11.07.2007, 19:32 quote

shirazkhan
shirazkhan Joined: 28 Jan 2007 Posts: 1166 Location: United Kingdom, Scotland, Glasgow
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samatron wrote:
Ironpyrites wrote:
Hmm the friend zone always a bad place to be. If I fancy them I tend to avoid the friend zone in the first place. I personaly dont think you can be friends with them if you had those kind of feelings for them. Im sure many will contest my statement.


That sounds about right to me.
Only be her friend if you have decided that you don't want anything more with her. Otherwise, you're being really hard on yourself, and, even worse, you're lying to her!
I really don't think that the friend zone is reversible, and if it is possible to unring the bell, as she sees you as a nice guy, she'd probably use you.
That stuff you said about her discussing her bf problems with you is a classic indicator that she doesn't see you as a potential bed-mate!
There are loads of great people out there that you can meet and hit it off with. Never think that just because you're into this girl that there isn't someone else that you'll meet soon that will blow your mind!
I used to get really into individual girls. I think that's a bad habit to fall into. You can never attract someone if you have that idolising mindset. The person you're attracted to can sense it in how you come across, and it isn't attractive to them. I'd say that sometimes I still recognise the start of a crush, and the moment I notice that I'm starting to like someone, that's the time to put them out of my mind and start to look for someone else!
I don't think that's unromantic, as I don't think love has anything to do with crushes!


yeah in the end it is a silly crush. but you know mate, i've been reading your posts in and out on different topics and it seems you advocate the no nonsense approach to women
to explain, i think you said it when you said there's two types of guys, one who react by acting kind and the other who dont react, instead egg the lady on.
also you hinted that you "used" to be the nice guy type.

do you really feel that "nice guy types" are always at a disadvantage when it comes to winning over a lady? it would seem that they would be prime target's of friendbombs.

however, as an ending note - two of my mates -a girl and a guy from high shcool were really good pals, listened to each other's relationship woes and what not. basically they were inseparable.
the guy took off to study in the US and the girl went her way.

before they went off, they both had a rather humourous airport scene in which they realised what my gang knew all along. they WERE inseparable.
happy to say, last i heard they were still going strong.

and still good for a couple of piss-taking sessions Laughing

 

12.07.2007, 22:44 quote

coasttocoast

I hate the friendzone-in fact I just got dumped into it tonight by a girl I really liked!-boo hoo! You try and be true to yourself and be a nice guy and despite all your hard work the words that never fail to put a downer of a day to you "I like you as a friend". GRRR! however its better to know someone as a friend rather than to not have them in your life at all.
I strongly believe there is such a thing as being too nice and you end up being percived as warm and cuddly. Maybe its time us nice guys changed our tunes a little-who knows!?!!? I definetly think Ive been too nice in the past-should I change?

Bitterness over-back to cheery and postive now!

 

14.07.2007, 09:49 quote

shirazkhan
shirazkhan Joined: 28 Jan 2007 Posts: 1166 Location: United Kingdom, Scotland, Glasgow
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coasttocoast wrote:
I hate the friendzone-in fact I just got dumped into it tonight by a girl I really liked!-boo hoo! You try and be true to yourself and be a nice guy and despite all your hard work the words that never fail to put a downer of a day to you "I like you as a friend". GRRR! however its better to know someone as a friend rather than to not have them in your life at all.
I strongly believe there is such a thing as being too nice and you end up being percived as warm and cuddly. Maybe its time us nice guys changed our tunes a little-who knows!?!!? I definetly think Ive been too nice in the past-should I change?

Bitterness over-back to cheery and postive now!


who said that nice guys always win again?

 
 
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