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03.04.2009, 09:57 quote

annmarie5988

sc0ttie wrote:
jeggae wrote:


Can be subjective but can be generalised.

I had a good personality once apparently, when I didn't have a picture up. Chatting to women all night on msn and indeed some women wanted to meet me. Plenty of flirting on the two forums I go on, this and another.

As soon as I put my pic up.....the msn chats slowed down and stopped in some cases, flirting on the forums stopped, all night scrabble games stopped, women that wanted to meet me ignored me, women that were friends with me probably decided I wasn't as good a friend anymore. Now I'm just ignored by a lot of them.

hey but that's just probably me moaning again Laughing


could that not just have been circumstance? what if you had not have put a pic up and the same still happened? what would you blame it on then? somebody else having a pic up? If it was just flirting, friendship and scrabble games it doesn't have to be quite such a personal reason for it ending does it? some people take flirting very seriously and some people think its just a laugh and flirt with loads of people. If you are saying your flirting had turned into a relationship then that is different, but if they had not even met you it doesn't sound like anything serious, does it?

All night scrabble....could it be they just got bored of scrabble? "oh no, here comes Jeg, i bet he is going to ask me to play scrabble again with him." Laughing Its not personal but maybe they just didn't want to play scrabble all night anymore?


I totally agree with your flirting comments Scott ........... some poeple take it far to seriously, you know really actually think they are being crushed on, and someone actually wants to lick them etc .... not saying that some of those comments aren't true. Not that i am a sceptic but have had my fingers burnt a couple of times so i am alot more wary of what people tell me, luckily i am not a muppet and hang of there every word .......Laughing

The way i see it is, if you have a pic up then whoever, can choose whether they want to start talking to you, at least they have an idea of what the person is like. (and yes Jegs i know some people photos aren't recent or even real Smile)

If you dont have a pic up then you are only setting yourself up for a fall, which inturn leads to all the negative comments about internet dating, yes of course personality has its part to play but then so does physical attraction. This is not to say you can stop any of the prick/clit teasers the ones that have no intention of meeting you even if you looked like Brad Pritt or Angelilina Jolie
There are a few on this site, yeah i know shock horror .......... Razz

I am having a dilema myself at the moment, do i take a chance on someone who i would not normally go for, decisions, decisions .......... Twisted Evil

I have always gone with my gut instinct and 99% of the time it has worked, if they seem a bit dodgy then they probably are. Just my take on things and yes i am still single ............. Laughing

 

03.04.2009, 11:17 quote

sc0ttie

kadushu wrote:
I think what Jeggae has said does happen, but not exclusively. It is easy to build up a false impression of someone online - filling in the blanks with what you want to believe. Purely text-based communication is far from ideal when it comes to getting to know someone. I'm sure there are plenty of open-minded people out there who would be less judgemental, but it's all a matter of personal preference and being honest. Webcam chat has made things a lot more open.

--- I can't believe this topic has come up again, and here I am posting again.---

Rolling Eyes


Oh yeah I know it goes on, I wasn't disputing that, but I was trying to say is that maybe they ALL didn't stop talking to him or wanting to meet him just because he put a pic up. I think Jeg tends to beat himself up a bit at times, from what i have seen on here. I would try to give people the benefit of the doubt when I could as people don't always make decisions based upon looks and it is good to keep in mind that other outside factors can make somebody lose interest.

Maybe if somebody does not put a picture up to start with, when they have pictures of themselves available to use, they might be trying to control what peoples perception of them is, just a little bit too much? who knows, i am sure their could be many reasons for not putting a pic up. But if it is just flirty friendship then it probably isn't worth reading too much into it.

 

03.04.2009, 14:11 quote

jeggae
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sc0ttie wrote:
jeggae wrote:


Can be subjective but can be generalised.

I had a good personality once apparently, when I didn't have a picture up. Chatting to women all night on msn and indeed some women wanted to meet me. Plenty of flirting on the two forums I go on, this and another.

As soon as I put my pic up.....the msn chats slowed down and stopped in some cases, flirting on the forums stopped, all night scrabble games stopped, women that wanted to meet me ignored me, women that were friends with me probably decided I wasn't as good a friend anymore. Now I'm just ignored by a lot of them.

hey but that's just probably me moaning again Laughing


could that not just have been circumstance? what if you had not have put a pic up and the same still happened? what would you blame it on then? somebody else having a pic up? If it was just flirting, friendship and scrabble games it doesn't have to be quite such a personal reason for it ending does it? some people take flirting very seriously and some people think its just a laugh and flirt with loads of people. If you are saying your flirting had turned into a relationship then that is different, but if they had not even met you it doesn't sound like anything serious, does it?

All night scrabble....could it be they just got bored of scrabble? "oh no, here comes Jeg, i bet he is going to ask me to play scrabble again with him." Laughing Its not personal but maybe they just didn't want to play scrabble all night anymore?


No it wasnt circumstances Scott, too much of a coincidence, and does shows how shallow net dating can be. I'm clear in my mind what happened.

I never take flirting seriously and rarely message anyone, let alone pester anyone to meet me.
Also I don't think I've ever asked anyone to play me at scrabble, always waited to be asked.

I'll try and keep it brief, but explains why I am like I am on the net. Also is on topic with the subject matter of the thread.

I joined this site and liked the discussion board, so joined a few more dating sites to see what the forums were like, and another site had a good forum.

I started posting on here in 2006 and enjoyed the chat and the flirting, until it went sour because I got involved in some [I consider] bullying that was going on on here, so I went off the board for a while and posted on some others, including the other one I still go on. But I didn't have a pic up as I wasnt interested in dating, and not keen on the way I look in pics anyways.

I came back on here couple months later, so I was posting on two forums with no pic and enjoyed the flirting on both. I didn't take the flirting seriously and had no real intentions of meeting anyone.

Anyhow, in 2007 women started to message me on both sites telling me how good my posts were..funny and also intelligent at times. As it went on a few of the women wanted to meet me as they [apparently] liked my personality, but wanted to see what I looked like..."not that that's important, as looks aren't"
So I reluctantly put a pic up..not a very good one I must admit, and the women just disappeared
This wasnt the thing that got to me as I'm not that worried about meeting women off the net, but other things like flirting etc.

Before I put my pic up, I was flirting on the two sites, and the other one was busier, and I think I was pretty good at it. Similar sort of threads to this one 'would you sleep with the above' etc, and it was all going great and enjoying it. Some women were wary because I didn't have a pic up, but I was still having fun. As soon as I put the pic up everyone on the forums changed and in some cases become rude. I became the bottom of the barrel over night Laughing Suddenly excluded from all the fun bits. That really got to me.

The other site has plenty of meets, so last year I went to loads of meets to let women see what I'm like in person. It worked as things has improved for me on there over the last few months, and I now have a lot of admirers, and a lot of women are after me Very Happy ..also the flirting has improved, and although I'm still bitter on there I enjoy it a bit more. But deep down I'm not really interested in net dating, especially over long distances.

I never take flirting seriously and rarely message anyone, let alone pester anyone to meet me.
Also I don't think I've ever asked anyone to play me at scrabble, always waited to be asked.

Maybe I have taken it all to heart a bit, but it probably has to do with the rut I'm in hasn't improved on this site and I stay out of the fun bits, and women still have digs at me. But nothing I can do on here as I'm not going to meet anyone.

But women on dating sites are only average women, and I can attract similar in real life, so just want to get myself out of this rut and off the net into real life.

Enough has happened to prove that on dating sites to know that looks [and pics] matters over personality. I've met hundreds of people on the net, and in my experience the people with the best pics tend to be a disappointment.

This is only really a net problem, not real life Laughing

 

03.04.2009, 14:22 quote

jeggae
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annmarie5988 wrote:
sc0ttie wrote:
jeggae wrote:


Can be subjective but can be generalised.

I had a good personality once apparently, when I didn't have a picture up. Chatting to women all night on msn and indeed some women wanted to meet me. Plenty of flirting on the two forums I go on, this and another.

As soon as I put my pic up.....the msn chats slowed down and stopped in some cases, flirting on the forums stopped, all night scrabble games stopped, women that wanted to meet me ignored me, women that were friends with me probably decided I wasn't as good a friend anymore. Now I'm just ignored by a lot of them.

hey but that's just probably me moaning again Laughing


could that not just have been circumstance? what if you had not have put a pic up and the same still happened? what would you blame it on then? somebody else having a pic up? If it was just flirting, friendship and scrabble games it doesn't have to be quite such a personal reason for it ending does it? some people take flirting very seriously and some people think its just a laugh and flirt with loads of people. If you are saying your flirting had turned into a relationship then that is different, but if they had not even met you it doesn't sound like anything serious, does it?

All night scrabble....could it be they just got bored of scrabble? "oh no, here comes Jeg, i bet he is going to ask me to play scrabble again with him." Laughing Its not personal but maybe they just didn't want to play scrabble all night anymore?


I totally agree with your flirting comments Scott ........... some poeple take it far to seriously, you know really actually think they are being crushed on, and someone actually wants to lick them etc .... not saying that some of those comments aren't true. Not that i am a sceptic but have had my fingers burnt a couple of times so i am alot more wary of what people tell me, luckily i am not a muppet and hang of there every word .......Laughing

The way i see it is, if you have a pic up then whoever, can choose whether they want to start talking to you, at least they have an idea of what the person is like. (and yes Jegs i know some people photos aren't recent or even real Smile)

If you dont have a pic up then you are only setting yourself up for a fall, which inturn leads to all the negative comments about internet dating, yes of course personality has its part to play but then so does physical attraction. This is not to say you can stop any of the prick/clit teasers the ones that have no intention of meeting you even if you looked like Brad Pritt or Angelilina Jolie
There are a few on this site, yeah i know shock horror .......... Razz

I am having a dilema myself at the moment, do i take a chance on someone who i would not normally go for, decisions, decisions .......... Twisted Evil

I have always gone with my gut instinct and 99% of the time it has worked, if they seem a bit dodgy then they probably are. Just my take on things and yes i am still single ............. Laughing


Thats what we are discussing, which is more important. Most people come out with the platitude 'personality before looks', as it makes them look less shallow. But I think its looks [especially on the net], and have good reason to think that. Of course if someone has looks and personality they are made.

I know looks can be subjective, but I've seen how frenzied women get when a new nice pic appears on the dating sites to know its not always that subjective

 

04.04.2009, 18:11 quote

sc0ttie

I see you have changed your pic Jeg, hoping for a better result?

I was just making suggestions about other ways of thinking about things when i mentioned the scrabble etc but seems you made your mind up on what was the cause of your rejection.

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in my experience the people with the best pics tend to be a disappointment.


So have you not met somebody with a not so good pic and been disappointed with them or is it just happening with people who have good pics?

The net can be terribly fickle, until you take it offline and make it something more realistic/tangible and meet. I have to say I have been quite lucky with the women I have met from the internet. I have met about 4 women off the net in total, and I had relationships with all of them for varying amounts of time. Internet dating is so far removed from just meeting somebody at work or through a friend, and its because of that, that people do think a pic is quite important for purposes of physical attraction. If somebody is not physically attracted to you it doesn't make them shallow, but if they stopped talking to you all together because of that you have to ask, is it because they are on a dating site, looking for a date who they are attracted to?

 

04.04.2009, 18:37 quote

perfectionisrare

i think you need thats looks attraction there or i dont think it will work its not talkin shallow or anything put personallity is a huge part aswell so i think its split equally

 

06.04.2009, 19:27 quote

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..it's a bit of everything.. and not necessarily in equal proportion.. and it's different for everyone!!.. vive la difference! It's that smile.. jsut for you.. a look that makes your heart beat faster.. whispered words or a hand on your arm taht makes your skin tingle and sometimes ..just sometimes.. it's that funny little thing they do that you cant get outta your head even after 12 years!! Sad

 

07.04.2009, 13:53 quote

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sc0ttie wrote:
I see you have changed your pic Jeg, hoping for a better result?


Not really Scotty, just a whim. Was never going to have it up for long.

sc0ttie wrote:

I was just making suggestions about other ways of thinking about things when i mentioned the scrabble etc but seems you made your mind up on what was the cause of your rejection.


Not sure what reason there could be for all the 'rejections' I had at exactly the same time.

The picture I first put up wasn't a very good one, so it didn't help, and as you say the net is fickle. The first pic you put up could be very important because it implants a vision in peoples [women's] minds.

Some people on the net probably have benefited by putting up a first good picture.

sc0ttie wrote:

jeggae wrote:
in my experience the people with the best pics tend to be a disappointment.


So have you not met somebody with a not so good pic and been disappointed with them or is it just happening with people who have good pics?


Not really..no

sc0ttie wrote:

The net can be terribly fickle, until you take it offline and make it something more realistic/tangible and meet. I have to say I have been quite lucky with the women I have met from the internet. I have met about 4 women off the net in total, and I had relationships with all of them for varying amounts of time. Internet dating is so far removed from just meeting somebody at work or through a friend, and its because of that, that people do think a pic is quite important for purposes of physical attraction. If somebody is not physically attracted to you it doesn't make them shallow, but if they stopped talking to you all together because of that you have to ask, is it because they are on a dating site, looking for a date who they are attracted to?


To be pedantic for a moment, its probably impossible to feel physical attraction to someone because of a pic in my opinion. Smile

For the reasons I stated we all know pics might not have any bearing on if we will be attracted to a person when meeting them. Then if you aren't attracted to them..where does that leave personality over looks then?

Some of the women I talk to have found most of their recent partners on the net, and in some cases all their partners. They maybe have a bit more of a ruthless attitude to net dating then I expected Surprised

One woman [<- had to think about that ] on another site, admitted she did have someone she had just started seeing and thought I had a better personality, but decided to go with the other bloke after seeing my pic Rolling Eyes Laughing. I had it out with this women and she admitted she didn't like my pic and said she didn't care if it made her look shallow. However I dont bear grudges for long and me and her became good friends afterwards and confided in each other. I did thank her for her honesty.

 

28.06.2009, 07:35 quote

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Defo a bit of both, there has to be an attraction or it just will not work, the personality is high up on my list, luckily I have found both which is great

 

04.12.2009, 08:49 quote

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Can you tell i'm bored, bumping old threads, lol Laughing

 

04.12.2009, 18:39 quote

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Hmm I want the best of everything, I deserve it. Cool
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04.12.2009, 18:44 quote

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Chet24 wrote:
Hmm I want the best of everything, I deserve it. Cool

I go along with that too chet
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04.12.2009, 21:27 quote

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This old chesnut again lol.

I think that personallity seems to count for alot more than looks. In my case at least. I know i wont be worring Brad pitt anytime soon (unless i start stalking him) but i seem to tick all the right boxes on the owd personality. I like to think that comes accross in my posts on here too. I am confident enough (not massivly, but i get by) i am a nice enough bloke, i seem to be funny. and so far it seems to be working.

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A person can have an amazing physical appearance, but if I don't like their personality, I'll have very little attraction towards them.

In contrast, sometimes I've become attracted to a person over time after getting to know them as a friend, despite not having found their appearance particularly appealing when we first met. There have also been times when I've noticed that a person is physically attractive only after I've gotten to know them a bit and some aspect of their personality has caught my attention.

 

01.09.2011, 12:12 quote

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I have a bit of a dilemma.

I'm seeing a woman at the moment, who has a lot I like personality and character wise, but not sure I fancy her that much.

But I like being with her, so would like to carry on seeing her for a while.

But she's hot on me, and told me so. Not sure there will be any future in it...so should I blow her out.? To be honest I can’t be bothered to tell her, and am thinking can I live in a relationship where all the feelings are mainly one way?? Although I do like her, so don’t want to string her along.

Getting old now, is it time to settle down?? Surprised
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