i think an amount of intelligence is required to appreciate the benefits of a nice and the value of character depth.

Not so much, but the ability to think about someone other than one's self is a definite bonus.
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i think most of the girls say they want a nice. but even the nicest guys cann't be perfect, it is matter of compromise.

Not to be putting anyone in a defensive position, but most women, I repeat most women statistically fall for the bad guy. This doesn't mean they don't want the nice guy, just means the bad guy causes more attraction from them, and isn't boring. Unfortunately always being there kinda seems to make them take ya for granted.


Let's face it, no one would ever want someone who treated them like crap, so it's not a concious (sp?) descision.

Anyway, just my view on things from what I've seen, and experienced.

I been through the bad guy thing, but it also helped to realise when i actually did the meet the perfect guy that he was nice for deffo
I feel safe but hes house trained to lol i didn't think he existed either but i got lucky
and i have to agree with tinker there are quite a few of those guys who pose as the nice guy then after they get you they turn

Can we go with the bar code idea? I like that.

*runs around with scanning gun*

"ooooooooooooo c'mere... you look decent"

*beep*

"oh... oh well...... oooo how about you???"

Could be fun!

predominantly girls, come sooner or later, want the "nice guy but not too nice"

but herein lies the problem... men are stupid (in general) alot of guys translate "not too nice" as occacsionally they act like a b*****d. Or pick fights, get drunk most nights and act far too macho than is realisticly possible. Which is the wrong move, obviously.

"Too nice" simply means women like their own space. They don't want everything done for them.. they can do it themselves. They don't want a pansy...a push-over or to get everything their own way.

Women like a guy who can put his foot down when he's supposed to. If he doesn't? Then it's the age old relationship curse......boredom.

The bad boy syndrome is rebellion as mentioned before, but it's also alot to do with excitement.

What a woman would love is a guy who has the "don't f**k with me" vibe enough to make her feel safe but when she gets him home she's the only person in the world who gets to see that really he's just a loving, considerate and exciting guy who only has eyes for her.
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double post. sry.
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