On a dating site then yes you have to make the effort, nothing is ever given on a plate. On a face to face basis tricky am old fashioned to a point and what woman doesn't want to be swept off her feet

Man, I need to get with the times.

People are 'asking eachother out' again? I always seem to have mutually kind of drifted into relationships, without the need for words of confirmation. I guess I've never been one for dating though, and have only had a handful of relationships.

I'm not afraid to chase if I really like someone, and being upfront about my feelings is very important to me - if thats what we mean. Being forward is usually seen as a good trait rather than bad - and especially when it comes to love.

Lots of you girls seem to think the whole coy thing is a way to go, I've found any bloke I've spoken about it to despises that girls wait for them to make all the moves. Have some fucking self worth.

one who does the asking

and i thought i was blunt .......

Do agree with alot she said though, basically if you dont ask you dont get, and whats the worse he is guna say, Yes or No ........ Like i said never really initiated anything on here, but in real life have a few times and as far as the whole coy thing goes, can be quite sexy in some situations, and like you in regards to love, i think guys like it when the girl can be very confident and forward in that area.

It's a piece of piss being the first one to send a message on a dating site, but I found it does take some balls to actually meet up with someone (without getting shit-faced first!)

In normal situations, it would be nice if the birds did more of the 'asking out'. Even if it is quite scary when they do. If I ever feel the need to ask a girl out, I just try the old trick of psyching myself up with thinking 'what's the worst that can happen?'. The trouble is, I have a vivid imagination and I can think up some pretty bad ways of getting my pride squashed.

think positive , what's the best that can happen.... she'll say yes!

I couldnt imagine turning up to meet someone drunk. I need to be in a sober state of mind to meet a date like that. Must be the fight or flight reactions

It's been tempting to have had a few drinks first, but I've not done it yet. I like to be myself as I usually am, and that's not drunk.

Mine is the dilemma as to what to wear, especially if I've got to brave the elements or do walking to get wherever I need to be. So I hope my date isn't going to expect me to arrive in high heels!

Am meeting someone thursday night for dinner and then onto a countryside spot for a sunset. Sounds romantic but its just friends really.

J'adore le coucher du soleil

sick of the asking shit. when they say yes it usually means their boyfriends are on holiday

I get a few women [quite a few actually] make the first move in real life, also the odd message on the net, but they tend to live too far away.

Women seem more at ease with doing it nowadays, then they did when I was young.

I think safety is the main point. Many women feel more at ease making the first move on the internet because they can get to know someone before it comes to a face to face date.

In a face to face situation, they really have no idea what the guy is like. Many feel that if they make the first move, he will suddenly become a stalker and they will have to go home at some point so he'll find out where they live. Although safety is paramount and should be noted, it also promotes the opposite effect where women start to believe that every man is a potential threat. Giving advice for safety is one thing but harping on about it has a detrimental effect.

I have been approached before by women but it's often only because they are looking for a one nighter so I quickly find an escape route. I've found few women who are seriously looking initiate the contact, even on the internet.