This is a very simple question....

I'm a guy that is proud to say that I am romantic, I love a candel light dinner with a rose and background music, long walks in the park where we talk about each other and see the sunset seating down, an espontaneous gesture of giving a flower or a gift just because... or just cuddle at home or in a special place without looking at the time.

But now seems that this is considered 'lame' and old fassion, less and less I see the romantic response to these and other romantic gestures... and I'm not saying the 'get it on there and then'

What do you all think?

Littlechef, romance isnt out of date or old fashioned at all, I think its great, its just unfortunate that most guys have abused it so women simple dont trust motives any more, very sad but true.

If I was guilty Id admit to it, for my own sins Im too trusting

Romance isn't dead ....yet! There are still a few of us around! Sad thing is quite a few men interpret romance as "flowers and chocolates" when in fact its a very deep issue. One meaningful sentence said at the right time can do much more than the biggest bouquet of flowers. Romance to me is candles, soft music, log fires and definately putting the pleasure and peace of mind to your partner first. If both partners did this life could be great. Its about being unselfish, thoughtful, the little courtesies that make women feel special (opening doors, borrowing your overcoat). Casablanca , Gone with the Wind, Life is Beautiful..... throw me a towel! I think that competition and mind games creep into relationships a lot and wreck everything. Without romance the relationship is dead.

Bookreader! You have it spot on...especially the right thing said just at the right moment.

I think being romantic as it used to be is very out of date...

In days gone by women were given token romantic gestures for what was basically an unfair deal...

These days I think romance is not so much about gestures (though they certainly seem to have their place for most of us) but sharing and general empathy for the other person...

... thats what I think anyway

I think a have to agree with you there, romance is definitely not dead though!!

matt x

Yeh its surely is a great thing, I consider myself to be romantic...

Some things to watch though....

Somone that works romatically for you by definition is capable of manipulating your state of mind at will... You may want to ask yourself how come they have that skill...

I have a couple of female friends that have romantic boyfriends that they stay with because they can very occasionally be very romantic, but basically the guys are very self centered indeviduals... this would be fine if the girls were self centered too, but they are not, so end up "seduced" into a very one sided relationshp...

And of couse it can happen to guys too.... I have certainly been on the recieveing end of that one!!

I think in many respect you have a valid Point littlechef, But things have changed so much since the old black and white Films, were the view of romance is somwhat diffrent than what we have today, We all have diffrent views and ideas on what romance means, I love the old idea of candle lit and walks and just talking about each other, but it is very hard to find a partner that share these ideas, Society is alot faster giving people little time to relax and be them selfs, We put too much pressure on each other to allow harmony and peace, Tv also has alot to answear for rar rar