No seriously I do!

I learnt how to do it possibly a year or so ago, and for the mostpart it works. And actually knowing that it works and radiating my self-confidence adds nothing than to fuel my belief and prove that I can "pick-up" a girl if I want to. I'm not here to sell a formula! People, I'm not even here to offer a formula per se. My point is that not being able to attain a girl (those who want to avoid the patronising comment please look away now) is not the sole reason people come on here. For me, it's a mixute of things being laziness (girls are in pubs/clubs/supermarkets/gyms but haven't got their likes/dislikes or personality plastered across them so it's harder) and also that I struggle to retain women due to what are nothing more than silly traits of self-sonsciousness.

Contrary to popular belief, it is guys who aren't shy AND are self-conscious who will be better at picking up ladies. Men who are so cocksure will never learn through a "Kaizan" approach as they do not believe they have to. Your self-conscious guy has traits making him very critical, and he will use bad experiences to strengthen his position next time. Although some scholars agree to this, the majority do not. I personally agree...... you may not!

If anyone has ever read "The Game" by Neil Strauss, you can see where the fundamentals lay. Girls are attracted to guys who are confident, funny and not desperate. By not desperate, read "can do with or without". Treat em' mean, keep em' keen. This didn't emanate from some far radical approach. It came because essentially, ceteris parabus, it is true. Try flirting with a girl, and then backing off a bit. Then doing the same. The attraction will probably grow stronger providing you are convincing with it.

"So Billy Big Shot, what are you doing on here if you are such a big hit with the ladies" I hear you cry.....

Well, I'm not. I think I do a good job of initiating an initial attraction which gives me a very good chance of a pull, but after that comes the tricky bit.

I've got another contrary to popular belief so here goes.....
Contrary to popular belief, men are on the whole very nice and mainly want a nice long-term girlfriend and be settled. A lot of all this being single, shag this girl, shag that girl is all bravado of boys between boys when they are essentially failing at what they are trying to achieve, a long term girlfriend. Single boys even try and put down lads who have got girlfriends by saying "under the thumb", "ball and chain" as let's face it, lads are ultra competitive and would never admit to a pier achieving something greater than they have.

So, eliminating all psycho babble which people always form different viewpoints on as we all see rationality in different ways.

So assuming lads are nice guys (or at least a lot are), why is it that being arrogant is probably more successful if done convincingly than being yourself to a girl? Because girls on the main like arrogance. And they will deny it. When the cock crows, I tell you most solemnly a girl will have denied that arrogance is an attractive feature, and then wallow in the self realisation that when it comes down to it, it does attract them.

So a serious question, if a guy (like me ot anyone else for that matter) realises that being someone who isn't deep down himself attracts girls more than being himself, how do you then retain a girl who thinks you are someone else altogether.

Do you ease her down into your self gently?
Do you go for the cold turkey arrogance approach?
Should you not have done it in the first place?

Pray tell..........

Well Liam, all i ask in a guy first and foremost is that he is honest with me, i am attracted to funny, confident guys, who have a story to tell, a 'badboy', if you like !!!! Dont understand why you feel you cant be yourself when you meet a new girl ? All i can ever be is myself if any prospective partner doesn't like it, then i move on, could not 'act' my way through a relationship. So my answer to your 3 questions above is you should have done it in the first place. Ann-Marie x

just wondering how r u ur fingers

That doesn't make any sense......

lol, after writting that long post

it's true, my boy is like that...but i dont think you can fake it. I think he is naturally cocky because he is big and new zealandish lol...but i wouldn't say he was arrogant. and he definitely has a "take it or leave it approach with girls"...i cant imagine him directly hitting on a girl (unless drunk lol)

but yeah we do like cocky guys for sure, confidence is king.

Your theories are hardly revolutionary mate!
People like Erik Von Markovik (Mystery), Neil Strauss(Style), Ross Jeffries, Robert Greene and David DeAngelo (my favourite) have been saying these things for years. DeAngelo's Double your Dating ebook has been around for about 7 years.
On top of that, The Game is an international best-seller. It was top of the amazon.com best-sellers list when it came out and the characters in the pick-up scene have had their faces plastered over best-selling magazines for years. There's even a movie coming out.
The whole bad boys and confidence thing is a straight down the line deal-maker.
At the end of the day, what sort of women are going to fall for this manipulative bs. And once they find out they've been manipulated, are they going to want to stick around? I doubt it, unless they have very low senses of self-esteem. OK for a quick lay, but if you want to build meaningful relationships with women, you'll need something more than cocky confidence.

I know how to get women.

Fetch me some tranquilisers and a rope and I'll show you.

edited cause I think I overstepped the mark..

my reply was a bit worse than that and I didnt want the mob after me with the pitch forks and burning brands again..

Women always fall for the manipulative shit though. Why would men use it if it weren't such a guaranteed winner? Even women you'd think would be above it all and see it for what it is. It pushes very primal buttons.

But the question is, as a bloke, do you lower yourself to do it for the sake of a fuck or a relationship? I've tried it a few times and it's like shelling peas, but ultimately you're bullshitting them, and a relationship founded on bullshit is, well, bullshit.

That and when you do finally get busted they never understand why you did it in the first place, and that really, now that they've discovered the real you they don't like you anyway. Catch 22. Life is not without it's irony at times.

dude you are too funny, you make a post saying you know how to get woman..

but also youve made a post saying why dont women message me back... doesnt seem to be working well does it