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01.09.2008, 18:59 quote

ravencolouredsky
ravencolouredsky Joined: 07 Aug 2008 Posts: 1522 Location: United Kingdom, England, London
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or rings his bell

 

01.09.2008, 23:45 quote

chikhai

Moose speaks the truth (again, the utter bastard).

All I've got is don't be a pussyboy and grow a pair.

You were boring. Be an individual, not some simpering wetback. Thats basically what your previous girlfriends were saying. More importantly (as others have said) be a man.

 

01.09.2008, 23:59 quote

bliss23

baggiebhoy wrote:
Nice guys have no chance these days.


These days I'm startin' to believe that line is crap. I really believe it depends more on the person and your feelings for them, than of how nice or bad they are.

I'm pondering if women actually want a good guy, but if they aren't completely into him then he must be somewhat bad to compensate?

Anyway, don't mind me. When I'll be able to rephrase I'll be back.

 

02.09.2008, 08:21 quote

eda85

I think a lot of it comes down to not being boring. Once the novelty and surprises have died down things get a bit dull if either partner lacks drive. It doesn't mean you have to be a dick, you just have to have a personality with a bit of spunk

 

02.09.2008, 15:23 quote

deepthroath

Sorry to say it (again) as everyone else appears to have said exactly the same thing...these girls are dumping you because your too nice. I have used those lines before...

"Your a really great guy....just not working....no spark....dont think this will go anywhere because we are so different".

From my personal opinion, i want a man who can keep me on my toes, stop me getting bored and make decisions some times. Be a man about things instead of sloping around like a love sick koala bear and get on with it.

"Whatever you want babe, its up to you" is NOT what a girl wants to hear. Try "We are going to **** for a drink, and then you will sit on my brain".

That should sort the Men from the boys.

 

02.09.2008, 15:28 quote

eda85

DeepthroatH wrote:
Try "We are going to **** for a drink, and then you will sit on my brain".


Tried it. My sister still won't let me borrow her car though

 

02.09.2008, 15:45 quote

leglover38

DeepthroatH wrote:
Sorry to say it (again) as everyone else appears to have said exactly the same thing...these girls are dumping you because your too nice. I have used those lines before...

"Your a really great guy....just not working....no spark....dont think this will go anywhere because we are so different".

From my personal opinion, i want a man who can keep me on my toes, stop me getting bored and make decisions some times. Be a man about things instead of sloping around like a love sick koala bear and get on with it.

"Whatever you want babe, its up to you" is NOT what a girl wants to hear. Try "We are going to **** for a drink, and then you will sit on my brain".

That should sort the Men from the boys.



So what your saying is he's got to be a bossy, over opinionated dick?

Each to their own Laughing

 

02.09.2008, 15:52 quote

chikhai

leglover38 wrote:
So what your saying is he's got to be a bossy, over opinionated dick?


Don't knock it. It works.

 

02.09.2008, 19:02 quote

deanography
Joined: 24 Aug 2008 Posts: 30 Location: United Kingdom, England, Merseyside
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inspired17 wrote:
Ok.. So...

I am 17 years old. Which makes me a young adult (well i like to think).
I have had 3 girlfriends who age from 15-17. Which is perfectly alright. Each one of these girls have dumped me for what was a good reason at the time. But later on i have found that to be a lie and that they had actually been cheating on me.

All 3 girls have sed that "you treated me like a princess and you made me feel so good and special".. "you are such an awesome lad, you are loveable and have a heart of gold and a personality to match".

So, i would like somebody to try to explain why, if this is true, why did they feel the need to get another person ? Confused .. cos it really is confusing.

Please Smile. Thanks


Because nice guys finish last, unfortuantly. And I'm one of them guys and struggling like hell to get someone while I'm sitting here and seeing nobhead lads get really nice girls

 

02.09.2008, 19:15 quote

rocketgirl

For goodness sakes boys, get over yerselves!
She isn't so bloody marvelous if she's daft enough to prefer a 'nobhead' over wonderful you, now is she? Or do you equate a woman with half a brain who cant decide for herself who she fancies/would rather be with, with being 'a lovely lass/perfect for moi' ?
Good grief, it may come as a surprise to some of you lads but actually women have the right to choose guys who are not you and who might or might not treat them as nicely as you or might or might not be chuffing doormats and guess what? She also has the right to make her own mistakes and choose someone else instead of you even if you are/were perfect for her.
Such is life. Get used to it. Stop spewing sour grapes. Maybe just maybe she chose the other guy because she prefers him to you? Just because you think you are the better catch, doesnt mean you are. In fact, if she doesnt think so then you are not. Simple As.

 

02.09.2008, 19:18 quote

eda85

Feel better?

 

02.09.2008, 19:23 quote

rocketgirl

eda85 wrote:
Feel better?


No.

(I'm guessing that was aimed at me, Eddie dearest?).

 

02.09.2008, 22:08 quote

chikhai

No sour grapes here RG. I'm the one thats doing the choosing.

For me it comes down to this; on a fundamental level the needs of men and women are identical. We all want to be engaged physically, mentally and emotionally. But seeing as how a not insignificant proportion (if dating sites are to be believed) of men are vastly more insecure than women we have a problem.

'Nice' is not a good word. Its about the most average, non-committal word you can use to describe something. Average is not something you should be aspiring to. Its dull. Its beige. Its strictly middle of the road.

A question to all the 'nice' guys: given that we've now fully grasped what 'nice' is, would you want a 'nice' girl? A girl that never challenged you. Never really engaged you on any level or kept you on your toes. Who never inspired you. A girl who was so mundane and petrified of losing you she'd bend to your every whim. Is this what you want?

If the answer is a resounding 'yes' then read no further. You're hopelessly insecure and will get what you deserve. Keep fishing for those bottom-feeders and you'll catch one eventually. Then you can look forward to waking up in twenty years time in a completely loveless relationship, seething with resentment as it finally dawns on you that the only thing keeping you both together is the fear of being alone.

If the answer is 'no' then why the marry do you project that exact same aura of hopelessness? 'Oh why did she leave me, I told her I loved her', 'I'd do anything for her', 'Whats wrong with me, I'm just a nice guy?'. Theres an old saying that says opposites attract (and a video with a cartoon cat and Paula Abdul, who was definitely worth a squirt when she made it), you know what? Its complete horseshit.

You attract what you project. In the case of jelly-backed, needy men thats not an awful lot, because believe it or not women have their shit together when it comes to this sort of thing. Most know exactly what they want, and its not some guy who hangs on for grim death. Spitting out platitudes and proclaiming your love with every breath gets fucking old fast. Anybody can do that, and any self-respecting woman doesn't just want anybody.

Be a man, and for the self-confessed manophobes on here that doesn't mean being a cunt, it just means strength of character and a modicum of self-belief. It ain't rocket surgery.

 

02.09.2008, 22:21 quote

rocketgirl

Well Chikhai that was kind of what I meant you know.
Guys who cant believe the 'nice' girls dont want them, they are baffled that she chose someone else.
It just grates when someone says "I'm perfect for that person" when 'that person' has the right to decide for themselves who's perfect for them.
When you go for a job interview, yes you put forward your best assets to catch the boss's eye, but ultimately HE decides if you are right for his company, not you.
That's what I meant.
It is sour grapes when a girl throws a guy over for another and the dumped guy goes "it wont last" "he's a nobhead"...if she agreed with you, she wouldnt be with said nobhead, she'd be with you, eh?
And when I say "you" I dont mean you chikhai or anyone in particular, just all the lads who keep spouting the sour grape stories about how some wonderful lass didnt have the brains to see what a marvelous catch he was and ran off with a nobhead....
And yeah 'nice' grates too. It's such a "non" word.

 

03.09.2008, 07:27 quote

deepthroath

chikhai wrote:
No sour grapes here RG. I'm the one thats doing the choosing.

For me it comes down to this; on a fundamental level the needs of men and women are identical. We all want to be engaged physically, mentally and emotionally. But seeing as how a not insignificant proportion (if dating sites are to be believed) of men are vastly more insecure than women we have a problem.

'Nice' is not a good word. Its about the most average, non-committal word you can use to describe something. Average is not something you should be aspiring to. Its dull. Its beige. Its strictly middle of the road.

A question to all the 'nice' guys: given that we've now fully grasped what 'nice' is, would you want a 'nice' girl? A girl that never challenged you. Never really engaged you on any level or kept you on your toes. Who never inspired you. A girl who was so mundane and petrified of losing you she'd bend to your every whim. Is this what you want?

If the answer is a resounding 'yes' then read no further. You're hopelessly insecure and will get what you deserve. Keep fishing for those bottom-feeders and you'll catch one eventually. Then you can look forward to waking up in twenty years time in a completely loveless relationship, seething with resentment as it finally dawns on you that the only thing keeping you both together is the fear of being alone.

If the answer is 'no' then why the marry do you project that exact same aura of hopelessness? 'Oh why did she leave me, I told her I loved her', 'I'd do anything for her', 'Whats wrong with me, I'm just a nice guy?'. Theres an old saying that says opposites attract (and a video with a cartoon cat and Paula Abdul, who was definitely worth a squirt when she made it), you know what? Its complete horseshit.

You attract what you project. In the case of jelly-backed, needy men thats not an awful lot, because believe it or not women have their shit together when it comes to this sort of thing. Most know exactly what they want, and its not some guy who hangs on for grim death. Spitting out platitudes and proclaiming your love with every breath gets fucking old fast. Anybody can do that, and any self-respecting woman doesn't just want anybody.

Be a man, and for the self-confessed manophobes on here that doesn't mean being a cunt, it just means strength of character and a modicum of self-belief. It ain't rocket surgery.


Yes they fucking do!



And bravo to the rest of it as well. It seems there arent enough of you blokes out there that can face reality and get on in life knowing what you want.

Attraction is a two way thing. You might be the ugliest bloke in the world, but you know what, if you can hold an interesting and stimulating (and again, decent isnt good enough) conversation, have some modicum of self respect and an attitude worth the wait, then hell, even i might give it a go!

Nice sucks.

Well done Chikhai...!

 
 
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