Probably men havent changed in general for a long time, but woman have recently. If women dont know what men want now they probably never will, but men have to start learning what women ultimately want.

Most men probably want women the way they were up until the 90's.

Men never know what they want so how can they expect to be treated right?
We keep trying and then they go and move the goal posts.

^^^^^^^^ I concur with what she said ^^^^^^^^

wb becky x

I for one don't care anymore how anyone gets treated, including me. All I ask for is respect. And other minor things (a whole bunch of them). PMSL

Oiyoiyoi – goal-post moving isn’t gender specific; everyone moves goal-posts (whether one cares to admit it to themselves or not is largely dependent on their honesty with themselves).

Goal-post moving either happens naturally after a period of time (when someone’s expectations or aims in life change) or is 'faked', deliberately moving goal-posts to an area outside of the playing field that the other person feels comfortable in – often with the aim of putting the onus of a breakup onto the other persons shoulders.

Fine. So it's better to put the goals way up from the first thing so you can lower them a bit, but still get the whole shabang. LOL

Besides... If the goals ain't high enough then how the heck are you supposed to grow? I like to grow.

No wonder I don't like football.. too many goalposts..

Being able to remember back 40 years vividly, I know who's changed and moved the goalposts the most in that time, and it isn't men. Men are still simple people with simple needs.

Some men, not me, would say life was much better when women where submissive and oppressed. As I say, I dont think like that