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04.01.2009, 20:03 quote

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alanpartridge83 wrote:
im always amazed whenever people reckon that to lie is such a black or white area.there are shades of grey to honesty. i for one am not naive enough to think that i wont or never have lied.

sometimes its essential to lie to avoid hurtings ones feelings or someitmes u lie thinking initially that its required when in fact it was best to be honest.

ALL I CAN ADMIT TO IS THAT IM AS HONEST AS I CAN BE


I did lied. but not to avoid hurting somebody.....
it was when I was ilegal and I was... few other nationalities

 

04.01.2009, 20:03 quote

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I've always been very honest myself.

Back later I have to finish cleaning the Lamborghini and work on my perfect muscle rippling body Laughing


 

04.01.2009, 20:07 quote

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I think I know what you're getting at now... the first girl I dated from online made out to have simular opinions to me. I had stated on my profile that I strongly dislike racism. After dating this girl for 4 months she started telling me REALLY nasty rascist jokes... I was starting to go off her already, and this was the final straw... but if she had told me she was rascist in the first place (instead of doing the exact opposite), we wouldnt have got together, and she wouldnt have got hurt.
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04.01.2009, 20:11 quote

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fireinmyheart wrote:
I think I know what you're getting at now... the first girl I dated from online made out to have simular opinions to me. I had stated on my profile that I strongly dislike racism. After dating this girl for 4 months she started telling me REALLY nasty rascist jokes... I was starting to go off her already, and this was the final straw... but if she had told me she was rascist in the first place (instead of doing the exact opposite), we wouldnt have got together, and she wouldnt have got hurt.


more or less what i meant babe ........... trying to impress etc, by sucking up or denying the sort of person you are ............ genuinely flirting with people you have no intention of meeting ......... that type of honesty ....... and the attention seeking .......... dont get me started on that one ...........

 

04.01.2009, 20:12 quote

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fireinmyheart wrote:
I think I know what you're getting at now... the first girl I dated from online made out to have simular opinions to me. I had stated on my profile that I strongly dislike racism. After dating this girl for 4 months she started telling me REALLY nasty rascist jokes... I was starting to go off her already, and this was the final straw... but if she had told me she was rascist in the first place (instead of doing the exact opposite), we wouldnt have got together, and she wouldnt have got hurt.



A lot of people are very ignorant and unaware of their armchair racism - maybe that was the case with this girl.

I for one aint put my bad habits on my profile - the last thing im gonna do when short of female attention and on a dating site is list all my faults so i dont blame her for not mentioning it.

 

04.01.2009, 20:13 quote

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funkychick1 wrote:
fireinmyheart wrote:
Definately best to be honest, I always give honest responses on here, but dont always comment if I see a post I dont like, so as not to offend.

I certainly dont pretend to be something I'm not, but do find it difficult to get my true personality across... I think some (if not all) have a, maybe slightly different idea of what I'm like, to what I am really like.

Hope that makes sense.


would make a comment on such things in real life ??? if so why not on here ???


No I dont comment on everything I see that I dont like in real life. Why should I? I'm no better than anyone else, so why should I go around telling them when they are wrong? Obviously I do comment on some things I dont like... I guess it depends on how well I know the person, and whether I am really in the right or not. For example if a friend said something rascist, I might well tell them they are wrong to say whatever it was they said. If it was some huge angry looking pisshead... I may well keep my oppinion to myself.
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04.01.2009, 20:16 quote

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Seems to me, the vast majority on the net say they are honest..obviously some must be lying. Everyone say they want to meet someone that's honest..some are going to be disappointed.

I think People do tend to be encouraged to not be strictly honest about their pics and profiles, so I take them with a pinch of salt. SOME women are the worse culprits for encouraging this by congratulating, sometimes crushing on men that put up not particularly honest pictures. Indeed one women advised me to put up a pic that isn't honest.

I've met a lot of people off the net and find it hard to trust anyone, although I've met a lot of seemingly good people.

 

04.01.2009, 20:18 quote

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alanpartridge83 wrote:
fireinmyheart wrote:
I think I know what you're getting at now... the first girl I dated from online made out to have simular opinions to me. I had stated on my profile that I strongly dislike racism. After dating this girl for 4 months she started telling me REALLY nasty rascist jokes... I was starting to go off her already, and this was the final straw... but if she had told me she was rascist in the first place (instead of doing the exact opposite), we wouldnt have got together, and she wouldnt have got hurt.



A lot of people are very ignorant and unaware of their armchair racism - maybe that was the case with this girl.

I for one aint put my bad habits on my profile - the last thing im gonna do when short of female attention and on a dating site is list all my faults so i dont blame her for not mentioning it.


True, its not a good idea to list all your bad points... but I feel very stongly about this, and had specifically asked her, and she claimed not to be, and that we're all the same etc.
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04.01.2009, 20:22 quote

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alanpartridge83 wrote:
fireinmyheart wrote:
I think I know what you're getting at now... the first girl I dated from online made out to have simular opinions to me. I had stated on my profile that I strongly dislike racism. After dating this girl for 4 months she started telling me REALLY nasty rascist jokes... I was starting to go off her already, and this was the final straw... but if she had told me she was rascist in the first place (instead of doing the exact opposite), we wouldnt have got together, and she wouldnt have got hurt.



A lot of people are very ignorant and unaware of their armchair racism - maybe that was the case with this girl.

I for one aint put my bad habits on my profile - the last thing im gonna do when short of female attention and on a dating site is list all my faults so i dont blame her for not mentioning it.

I don't think that racists jokes make a person, racist itself....
and, let's think that way: if we start being to politicaly corect,not telling skin colour related jokes, religion related jokes,nationality or region related jokes,sexual tendancy related jokes, it means that we shouldn't say jokes about hair colour related jokes,women related jokes....and the list goes and goes......
then would be no more jokes to say.
would it?

 

04.01.2009, 20:23 quote

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jeggae wrote:
Seems to me, the vast majority on the net say they are honest..obviously some must be lying. Everyone say they want to meet someone that's honest..some are going to be disappointed.

I think People do tend to be encouraged to not be strictly honest about their pics and profiles, so I take them with a pinch of salt. SOME women are the worse culprits for encouraging this by congratulating, sometimes crushing on men that put up not particularly honest pictures. Indeed one women advised me to put up a pic that isn't honest.

I've met a lot of people off the net and find it hard to trust anyone, although I've met a lot of seemingly good people.


Robin why have you such a fixation on pics. Surely if someone does have a 'dishonest' pic on there porfile that would be the first thing you would spot if/when you meet them, which for me would be enough not even to continue the date and say bye bye ............ and if you have no intention of meeting them anyway.......... what does it matter if they want to have blonde hair and big tits ..........

 

04.01.2009, 20:26 quote

alanpartridge83

unimportant wrote:
alanpartridge83 wrote:
fireinmyheart wrote:
I think I know what you're getting at now... the first girl I dated from online made out to have simular opinions to me. I had stated on my profile that I strongly dislike racism. After dating this girl for 4 months she started telling me REALLY nasty rascist jokes... I was starting to go off her already, and this was the final straw... but if she had told me she was rascist in the first place (instead of doing the exact opposite), we wouldnt have got together, and she wouldnt have got hurt.



A lot of people are very ignorant and unaware of their armchair racism - maybe that was the case with this girl.

I for one aint put my bad habits on my profile - the last thing im gonna do when short of female attention and on a dating site is list all my faults so i dont blame her for not mentioning it.

I don't think that racists jokes make a person, racist itself....
and, let's think that way: if we start being to politicaly corect,not telling skin colour related jokes, religion related jokes,nationality or region related jokes,sexual tendancy related jokes, it means that we shouldn't say jokes about hair colour related jokes,women related jokes....and the list goes and goes......
then would be no more jokes to say.
would it?


100% agree with you mate - the pc brigade are doing my nut in - the worst example i heard recently was an msp who wanted to ban kids from singing the hoakey coakey because it has anti catholic meanings behind it Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

obviuosly there are some topics or terms that should be kept taboo.but as a white british male i feel like part of the only group of people that get slagged without threat of a picketline outside westminster the following day

 

04.01.2009, 20:27 quote

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unimportant wrote:
alanpartridge83 wrote:
fireinmyheart wrote:
I think I know what you're getting at now... the first girl I dated from online made out to have simular opinions to me. I had stated on my profile that I strongly dislike racism. After dating this girl for 4 months she started telling me REALLY nasty rascist jokes... I was starting to go off her already, and this was the final straw... but if she had told me she was rascist in the first place (instead of doing the exact opposite), we wouldnt have got together, and she wouldnt have got hurt.



A lot of people are very ignorant and unaware of their armchair racism - maybe that was the case with this girl.

I for one aint put my bad habits on my profile - the last thing im gonna do when short of female attention and on a dating site is list all my faults so i dont blame her for not mentioning it.

I don't think that racists jokes make a person, racist itself....
and, let's think that way: if we start being to politicaly corect,not telling skin colour related jokes, religion related jokes,nationality or region related jokes,sexual tendancy related jokes, it means that we shouldn't say jokes about hair colour related jokes,women related jokes....and the list goes and goes......
then would be no more jokes to say.
would it?


Look, I was just using this as an example of how someone was being dishonest, and why that was a mistake (for both of us). I cant tell the joke on here (if you can even call it a joke), because it was EXTREMELY offensive, had nothing humourous about it, and was born out of nothing but hatred for another race. I wouldnt judge anyone on one racist joke, this was a small part of the whole.
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04.01.2009, 20:35 quote

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funkychick1 wrote:
jeggae wrote:
Seems to me, the vast majority on the net say they are honest..obviously some must be lying. Everyone say they want to meet someone that's honest..some are going to be disappointed.

I think People do tend to be encouraged to not be strictly honest about their pics and profiles, so I take them with a pinch of salt. SOME women are the worse culprits for encouraging this by congratulating, sometimes crushing on men that put up not particularly honest pictures. Indeed one women advised me to put up a pic that isn't honest.

I've met a lot of people off the net and find it hard to trust anyone, although I've met a lot of seemingly good people.


Robin why have you such a fixation on pics. Surely if someone does have a 'dishonest' pic on there porfile that would be the first thing you would spot if/when you meet them, which for me would be enough not even to continue the date and say bye bye ............ and if you have no intention of meeting them anyway.......... what does it matter if they want to have blonde hair and big tits ..........


Before you came on the boards. But some probably know why I have a fixation on pics, but my views have been vindicated. Also I think I am posting on topic.

I know women that have met men knowing their picture probably isn't totally above board, but take a chance anyway. It doesn't go anywhere though.
I can name some cases where women have posted in the crush thread about men with doctored pics. This spoils it for the more honest amongst us. I could probably name some cases on these boards, but I don't want to name names

Isn't this partly what you are talking about?

 

04.01.2009, 20:37 quote

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fireinmyheart wrote:
unimportant wrote:
alanpartridge83 wrote:
fireinmyheart wrote:
I think I know what you're getting at now... the first girl I dated from online made out to have simular opinions to me. I had stated on my profile that I strongly dislike racism. After dating this girl for 4 months she started telling me REALLY nasty rascist jokes... I was starting to go off her already, and this was the final straw... but if she had told me she was rascist in the first place (instead of doing the exact opposite), we wouldnt have got together, and she wouldnt have got hurt.



A lot of people are very ignorant and unaware of their armchair racism - maybe that was the case with this girl.

I for one aint put my bad habits on my profile - the last thing im gonna do when short of female attention and on a dating site is list all my faults so i dont blame her for not mentioning it.

I don't think that racists jokes make a person, racist itself....
and, let's think that way: if we start being to politicaly corect,not telling skin colour related jokes, religion related jokes,nationality or region related jokes,sexual tendancy related jokes, it means that we shouldn't say jokes about hair colour related jokes,women related jokes....and the list goes and goes......
then would be no more jokes to say.
would it?


Look, I was just using this as an example of how someone was being dishonest, and why that was a mistake (for both of us). I cant tell the joke on here (if you can even call it a joke), because it was EXTREMELY offensive, had nothing humourous about it, and was born out of nothing but hatred for another race. I wouldnt judge anyone on one racist joke, this was a small part of the whole.


I know exactly what u mean. just about an example....
but what I'm telling is that a person shouldn't be judged by a joke, as we also don't judge anybody by the colour,religion.....
in fact, some people after u exposed your example, might think that u are to extremist and give no chance to people to know them Wink
see? we start to know u: what u don't like, u put aside



 

04.01.2009, 20:41 quote

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jeggae wrote:
funkychick1 wrote:
jeggae wrote:
Seems to me, the vast majority on the net say they are honest..obviously some must be lying. Everyone say they want to meet someone that's honest..some are going to be disappointed.

I think People do tend to be encouraged to not be strictly honest about their pics and profiles, so I take them with a pinch of salt. SOME women are the worse culprits for encouraging this by congratulating, sometimes crushing on men that put up not particularly honest pictures. Indeed one women advised me to put up a pic that isn't honest.

I've met a lot of people off the net and find it hard to trust anyone, although I've met a lot of seemingly good people.


Robin why have you such a fixation on pics. Surely if someone does have a 'dishonest' pic on there porfile that would be the first thing you would spot if/when you meet them, which for me would be enough not even to continue the date and say bye bye ............ and if you have no intention of meeting them anyway.......... what does it matter if they want to have blonde hair and big tits ..........


Some probably know why I have a fixation on pics, but my views have been vindicated. Also I think I am posting on topic. Before you came on the boards.

I know women that have met men knowing their picture probably isn't totally above board, but take a chance anyway. IT doesn't go anywhere. I can name some cases where women have posted in the crush thread about men with doctored pics. This spoils it for the more honest amongst us. I could probably name some cases on these boards, but I don't want to name names

Isn't this partly what you are talking about?


Yes of course a dodgy pic is very dishonest .......... are you saying some regulars pics are not who they really are ......... very intersting


At the end of the day we all have to go with our instincts ........... the few guys i have dated hsve been excactly what i thought they were so i have had a good experience .......... but i know others you haven't

 
 
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