In reality the Joe average type of person probably out number to so said "beautiful people" So how do we compensate? humour? atttude to life? shyness? the list can be endless! up to the time i stopped playing rugger i would say i was fit and looked like an athelete! but its well over 10 years and playing squash didn't really compensate!

So i would describe myself now as being stocky! It doesn't help when you see the standard physical description options on the dating site? But what the hell! I'm almost 50 and my days of being vain are long gone! if some one is so shallow that they can't be bother to look past the shell and analyse the inner me then that is their loss not mine!

I personally have refused to put on my profile that I seek " a slim blonde lady who is stunning"! Yet i read profiles written by people who are in the same boat as myself and every wants to meet an adonis or a madonna! Well best of luck to them i say! look past the photo! read the profile and seek something that you can connect with! Size should not be such an issue but unfortunately the human being can be exceptionally shallow and my own analysis is such that i really think that internet dating panders to this idealogy of the perfect specimen!

So look at the profile, then the photos focus on something that you find attractive! A smile, eyes hair what ever YOU like send a message picking up on points that you like and common interests! Don't settle into a rut! i know us crinklies tend to whinge a bit but my friend take it with a pinch of salt and put it down to the fact that we are becoming senile LOL
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This guy is liscensed to chill, and thrill, but the opportunities to thrill are rather less than anticipated!!!!

eccles, I agree with much that you say.

In any case, the older we get, the wiser many people get, and women often look for more than just tall, dark and handsome.

However - it is NOT shallow to go for good-looking people.

It is natural and normal.

What is shallow is to go ONLY for looks and not care about anything else.

hi. i think what we`re/you all kinda describing is "The Game". And it is a game, like - if you had a game of chess but did not know the rules.. you`re gonna loose! by the game i mean the sexual tension that exists between men and women, and they know how to play this game but men have never been told the rules of this game (lol i think i`ll start a thread just called THE GAME. i don`t think it matters what the guy looks like, it`s all about his personality, attitude and confidence, not the kind of arrogant attitude and confidence, i mean the kind of confidence that a guy radiates like he`s not desperate, not trying to be with anyone, not looking to pick up girls.

Why is it that the girls you don`t want are the ones all over you and the ones you do want - don`t want you? have you ever noticed lads that when you`re out on the hunt, feeling horny you never seem to score, but when your NOT looking for it when you least espect it, it somehow seems to happen.

just what i seem to of noticed over the years lol

I think its part of some insidious female plan to keep men in a constant state of confusion, until we go mad from the sheer paradoxical nature of it all.

Excuse me while i put on my tinfoil hat.

yeeeeeaaaaaahhhhh! lol

So men, don't message fat women, according to the survey. Fat women do very badly on dating sites. I get loads of interest until people discover I am fat, then it is rejection 90% of the time, and they say why.

Only today I actully got a man expelled from a dating site (not this one) because he messaged me simply to call me a "fat slob" and I complained. In his profile he claimed to be "polite" LOL

So maybe you need to look at finding a gal in a different light so to speak. Try putting in your ad that you are a big and warm cuddly Teddy Bear looking to meet a gal that is missing her Teddy Bear.... You would be surprised how many women will answer to you then. Some women belive it or not.... that is that they are looking for a big a and cuddly type of guy! I know for myself that's what I tend to go after myself, but the most important thing to remember it's not the size of the body or if your bald it's the size of your Heart and how you will treat a Lady is what is going to count in the end. So put things like love to pamper cuddle I think you will get the idea. Changing your ad every once in a while is good becasue it brings it back to the top of the list and that is where the ladies start to look is the start of the list. Good Luck!