empirical evidence suggests that is truely what gets you noticed

i can qualify that:

been nice = get dumped

become a knob = get loved

be half and half = confuse the hell outta them
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Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

I think that there are gentlemen out there as I am sure there are ladies too depending on our definition of what we feel they are.

But there is also truth in that in many relationships one seems to have the upper hand. I have also been really nice to find that I was dumped and when I have had a dont care attitude my partner couldn't do enough for me. So for once in my life I would like to meet someone on an equal footing and have an equal relationship with respect and trust.

To be honest with you I know many gentlemen and they are all either married or bachelors. OK so the married men cant do much but the bachelors I know go out with many different women, treat them lovely, and then dump them. I think they are looking for the same as us women, a perfect partner but I certainly dont think they exsist!

Think ive started a bit of a fight here.

I disagree nice lads dont get overlooked maybe the bad boy is more exciting i wana find the balance between the 2 magic,

Best of luck.
It is all down to your choice, what makes a gentleman, is it superficial?
You are at the mercy of what you are allowed to percieve, the non-gentleman will slip eventually but after how much investment?

take care

Wx

Is it so wrong to try an find a good sole?

Is it so wrong to try an find a good sole?

Speaking from experience, I tried to date someone younger than me (we met online) and she stood me up. When I asked her why she said, 'No-one's ever been good to me before. It scares me.'

I think some women (not all) are like that ... They want to meet someone who'll treat them well, but faced with that person (maybe) they get scared. Or maybe they will date you, but there's no spark so things don't work out.

Another thing I found out is that some people are 'charming'. But guess what? Charm is something someone does to you against your will. They make you like them! I was brought up to be well mannered, to mind my 'Ps and Qs' etc., but the problem isn't that there are no 'gentlemen' or compatible people out there (everything is out there). The problem is that our society is built on the wrong principles. It's all about money, and work and 'climbing the ladder'. People aren't able to meet socially in the same way as - lets say - my parents, who've been married for over 42 years. How do you build communities when people are so focused on 'getting and spending'?

An old saying is, 'By getting and spending we lay waste our powers'. It's not hopeless though ... If it was the human race would have died out long ago.

I know what you are saying im a honest person im a aries if theres anythin in star signs which i think there is, but if i say ill meet someone i meet them, i treat people how i expect to be treated. unfortunatly there are many fickle people around who act confident an intrested but they are deply insecure inside, people who cant say no to peolpe when they mean yes. unfortantly for u she decided at last min what a coward. i wabt a strong person for a future partner an someone like that who let u down who weak in my eyes ur better of without, when u meet someone who values u, u know there worth the wait. u will meet someone in the future who will value you.

The word Gentlemen gets used a lot, i think it depends on a womans point of view what they consider to be a gentleman, i suppose being caring, kind and considerate would be the most obvious qualities. I consider myself to be a gentleman, maybe im blowing my own trumpet but its true. In case anyone hasnt seen my previous topic i posted i have a disability which means i use a wheelchair, im not in it 24/7 just when im out, it seems it frightens women off so whether im a gentleman or not women dont seem to give me a chance, so does being a gentleman really matter all that to women?

Im a gentleman. I never wipe my knob on the curtains and never leave my used comdoms on the floor for you ladies to tread on and get a sticky foot.

Its a very interesting one this, being a single guy working in a group of girls i get an interesting perpective! seriously!! one of the girls i work with turned round to me and said "you've got no chance working us(women) out because i can't work myself out!" doesn't exactly inspire confidence!!

its funny how you can throw cliche's at this all night: treat em mean keep em keen, nice guy's finish last etc etc. an

in my experience, ive been on the rough end of being too nice, and the communal advice, is treat her meaner! In the end that hasn't worked either, i've decided the best way to go is just to be me, if that doesn't work, then she can't be the right one!! other wise it gets far too close to game playing for my liking......

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