Hey Eccles, i hear American girls LOVE "nice" English blokes. Think i'm gonna start saving...

i think if a guy seems to good to be true then girls tend to think he really is.

however in saying that, having someone treat you really well, with no fights, and no worries, tends to take all the passion out of it. i like a good bout of healthy worry and if i knew where my man was every minute of the day i'd begin to think.... "pussywhipped" and move on.

now in saying THAT i dont want a bad boy... had my share... y'all know how the stories go. i want a guy to treat me well but not salivate on my every wish and desire. i want someone to challenge me, mentally and emotionally. i want a rollercoaster, and i want to enjoy it!


whew...all that honest is making me feel......... ill.

Lets start now!!!! cheap flight across the pond and have a look with my accent id be sure to meet miss right!!!!
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This guy is liscensed to chill, and thrill, but the opportunities to thrill are rather less than anticipated!!!!

It's got nothing to do with whether you are nice or not.

It's back down to the same old bottom line: whether they are into you or not. If you aren't "the one" and not likely to be, being "nice" won't change it.

And that's what it comes down to in every relationship: Are you potentially "the one".

No thats true. But do you have to be a bad boy just to impress! even the simple act of replying to a polite message is good manners!! yes there has to be magnetism between two people but that comes after the initial contact surely????????
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This guy is liscensed to chill, and thrill, but the opportunities to thrill are rather less than anticipated!!!!

ALMOSTPURRFECT - Great, someone who actually shares similar opinions to myself about men being too 'nice'....

Of course you can be too nice, the percentage in the opinion speaks for itself.... 80% says you can, 20% says you can't.

So 'nice' guys if you wanna get somewhere with the ladies or at least hang on to them for longer - Don't be so nice or eventually they'll be off!

i always find nice guys 2 nice, and get sick of it quickly and end it for that reason, but i think thats coz im used 2 nasty guys, it depends from person 2 person if u get on with nice guys or not, i dont, but plenty do. think when a girls looking long term marriage type stuff she may b more inclined 2 look 4 a nice guy.

So a subtle blend of bad guy and mr nice??????? most guys can be like that! How about the maxim "TREAT THEM MEAN TO KEEP THEM KEEN" ?? Put things into context, I dont believe in putting a partner on a pedestal but i do believe in manners, romace and being spontaneous! Being a bad guy is fine in the right context! Do you like being arsed around by your partner? you know the stuff infedelity never turning up for dates! There are limits to both sides of this debate?????? overall i still think a guy can be to nice!!
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This guy is liscensed to chill, and thrill, but the opportunities to thrill are rather less than anticipated!!!!

Kind of interesting to note only four guys posting on this thread!? That word geek!!! yuk i speand 8 to 10 hours at work with one! at home i build and play around with pcs as well i dont count myself as being a geek!!!! I do think that girls tend to stereotype with partners once they've had a relationship with an asshole bully boy thats all they expect from future fellas!! I had an exe whose exe had knocked her around badly!!! and she expected the same from me???? Jeez theres a hell of a lot of insecure people in this world!!!!!!
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This guy is liscensed to chill, and thrill, but the opportunities to thrill are rather less than anticipated!!!!

i have a few male friends who are 'nice' and i love them all dearly because ...

1: i can actually have a conversation with them
2: the conversation is actually directed at my face and no where else.
3: they are there for me when ever i need them
4: they are respectful
5: they take me for me and don't expect me to be anybody else infact they'd probably tell me off if i did
6: they are the only men who have manners (well ok yes at work there are a few who are polite, but come on it's work you have to be)
7: they make me feel comfortable being me

i think that i must be old fashioned too, i got brought up by my grandmother and she instilled in me how a man should behave towards women and i can tell you a few of the male species have been given the evil eye if they haven't opened a door for me i can tell you!
or and this is my pet hate not given you their seat (is that too old fashioned? i went up to a group of blokes at a night club a few weeks ago and asked them which gentleman would kindly give me their chair i got two responces first opne was' you can sit on me luv if you want' which i declined politely with a ' erm no s'ok thanks' and the second was ' here you are' a NICE man smiled and handed me his.

i would date a nice man any time

manners don't cost a penny but often mean quite alot to the recipient.

sorry i know i'm waffling but i hate it when i see perfectly good men going to waste just because of some daft idea that 3/4 of the female population have got into their heads that a normal bloke doesn't deserve a second look... *and breathe*

right i'm done!

thank you ladytrace (apologies if i have your name wrong!)