Ok I'm so sick of this happening. My best friend is an old flame of mine, we keep in touch quite a lot and talk about everything.
Just had a phone call from her (which gave me the inspiration for this thread) with her crying her eyes out telling me that her latest boyfriend has dumped her.
So once again she turns to me to pick up the pieces!!! It is no small matter that she is highly attracted to "bad boys" who treat her like shit, have their way with her and dump her.
I on the other hand am not into that crap, I treated her with respect like a human being...guess what??? I wasn't good enough, oh I'm good enough to come running to when she's in trouble or when her heart has been broken (again) but not good enough to be seen with on the street...what the hell is that all about???

It's her own fault, right??? I mean if women like her want a bad boy (put me in a room with him and we'll see) shouldn't they expect to be treated like shit and shouldn't I push her away so she can be taught a lesson???

Sometimes I really do feel like telling her to go crying to someone else, but she is my best friend..

I know how you feel. My friends are the same. Sometimes I feel like shouting 'Well if you go out with an asshole, he will more than likely be an asshole towards you' at them.

I'm one of the girls that genuinely does want a nice guy. That won't hurt me, or make me feel bad about myself. One that likes me, and respects me.
Is it that difficult?

Sorry..went off on my own mini-rant there.

Hey rant away

The thing is Laura (that's your name right?) that so many women want a bad boy that the average male thinks that's how he is expected to act so he treats the women he meets like shit, thinking this is what she wants.

Then along comes a lady like you, who wants a nice guy...except the nice guy has been dumped so many times by women who want bad boys that he thinks he's not good enough for you because he thinks you want a bad boy!

So you try another bad boy hoping this time it will work out, then the nice guy who fanies you sees you with a bad boy which proves his suspicions correct and doesn't try because he is a nice guy and you are into bad boys. Well I don't know about you but I've gone cross eyed

Bloody hell!! I feel dizzy after reading that!

I've never been with a 'bad boy' (was married to a pillock once, but that's different ) and have no intention of ever doing so. I'd say more but finished reading your post feeling totally confuzzled and now need to go for a lie-down!

Yeah Dave but the thing is, a lot of the young ladies out there want people who pretend to be something they are not (along comes the bad boy, trust me 90% of the time it's all an act) because it makes him seem more exciting.
Would you rather date a bloke with a steady job (quit nagging I'm working on it ) or Mr. Badboy who takes what he wants without paying, thinks he owns the street and is a general pillock???

For a lot (not most but a lot) of women it seems the latter is more appealing. Like Laura, there are many women who just wanna meet Mr. Right, but looking at a young lady like Laura (this is just an example people) I wouldn't fancy my chances because she seems an attractive, confident young lady who would think herself above me. So guys like me wouldn't even try, and she would end up in the arms of a bad boy...

Am I making sense here??? I hope so...

Well I did just mean you as an example Laura, and if that is true then you will find your nice guy...try talking to the guy sat quietly at the bar with a couple of friends and glancing at you with wishful eye's...that'll be him ...and if you do meet him and it doesn't work out you can give me a slap and tell me to keep my mouth shut next time haha

Well I did just mean you as an example Laura, and if that is true then you will find your nice guy...try talking to the guy sat quietly at the bar with a couple of friends and glancing at you with wishful eye's...that'll be him ...and if you do meet him and it doesn't work out you can give me a slap and tell me to keep my mouth shut next time haha

I'll keep on the look out, then!

well..interesting that this has come up again..bad boys vs nice guys..

(not meaning you shouldnt have posted it, just ages ago i remember reading something similar and answering it)

what could be the attraction of a bad boy in womens eyes in the first place..
personally i think it has to be...they are seen as confident, exciting, spontaneous and willing to take risks....problem is usually they come with attitude, fists, infidelity and lots of other nasty stuff

The nice guy is seen, and usually described by themselves i may add, as dependable, thoughtfull, caring, attentive, trusting and all the other soppy stuff, but rarely confident, exciting, spontaneous etc..

so, i believe, most men put themselves in one camp or the other, when in reality women may want a man with a bit of both...

but if men do not have the qualities of both these 'camps', then women will naturally have to jump from one to another..goes to bad boy for a while, but its too bad, so go to nice guy, but hes too nice, and the cycle continues...

well thats my take on it anyway...lol

Because sometimes women like the attraction of a bad boy and its this attraction that makes them fall for bad boys...Boredom is sometimes a factor in it and bad boys make them feel excited again...I did it once and got badly burned....never would do it again though.....

This topic makes me laugh.

Bad boys vs nice guys, oh the melodrama.

I notice a similar thing in another topic, (cannot remember the name) but why try to be something we are not? In life i think there are only two types of people, those who know what they want and go for it, and those that are not sure and fanny around. This could be regarded in many forms as the nice guy, bad lad, etc, but really it is all rubbish. I can't be bothered treating a woman like she is dirt, and i will make the woman feel like she is the only lass in the world, but by the same token i don't take all the shit off her, i.e. trust issues, etc. I have never given a woman reason to doubt me.

I think it is 50/50 split with regard of who is to blame, men are just as bad when they are wimpy, and give in at every oppertunity, where-as women are bad when they moan and say things are boring. There are simple answers to all the problems, whether we choose to follow them are up to you.

There is a motto i live by, If you want to moan about a problem, go see a woman, if you want a problem solved then go to a fella.

bad boys, or "rube boys" just mainly use girls for abit on the side and to show off with their m8s... I mean a girl is a human being, not collectable football stickers
I myself are NOT a bad boy, i respect woman and have NEVER cheated on anyone....