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04.11.2007, 17:15 quote

Anonymous

Ok, and correct me if i'm wrong here but Greystone, how many posts does Rocketgirl have to make before you finally get the message that she thinks you're good looking. Now if someone kept saying that to me for as long as she has to you i'd been PM-ing that person by now and arranging to meet!!!!!

Nice pic Rocketgirl!!! you're lurvly.

 

04.11.2007, 17:43 quote

annmarie5988

Greystone wrote:
scottie69 wrote:
Maybe they can just sense that you arnt behaving naturally towards them? Rolling Eyes Try just being yourself and stop quoting pick up lines and do what comes naturally....
I don't use pick up lines. That shows your ignorance of the pick up community. The pick up community use pick up routines not individual lines. A pick up routine is about everything from fashion, body language, speaking style and energy level.

One major problem I have had is that nearly all the women I meet seem to be attached.


Sorry for my ignorance in regard to the 'pick up community' world but what's the difference between a 'pickup line' and a 'pickup routine' ???????? does involve a dance routine ????????? just wondering as they both sound pretty simular to me. Both are not real and not good, women are very good at spoting somoone who are not being themselves. So i will say it again VERY LOUDLY this time, be yourself and if they dont like it, it's there loss. All i know is if a guy approached me in the street and started give me a 'routine' unless he was George Clooney, well he would get told to get a life.

I know sorry Bliss just fueling the fire but sometimes i have to say something ................... x Very Happy

 

04.11.2007, 18:14 quote

Anonymous

'Pickup community' sounds like a hobby, it has an air of desperation which (I can only imagine) any woman worth knowing would pick up on.
The chances are that when you meet the woman of your dreams, it will be at the time you expect it the least, you just can't schedule a time an place to get yourself a woman like a caveman.
Pickup lines are for TV, I don't think that stuff really works in real life so much.
The best thing to do is just forget worrying about meeting women or scaring them off, but just relax and stop reading those books about picking up women, they are about as corny as the Jerry Springer Show...........

 

04.11.2007, 18:15 quote

Anonymous

I think there is a difference between pick up lines and pick routines.... but, both - from what i've read about the seduction community - pretty much amount to the same thing: talking AT a 'target' in the hope of getting the desired response - phone number, date etc.
Pick up Lines are just that - "Hi I just wanted to say I think you have lovely eyes" or whatever specific words.
A pick up routine however relies on the gamer being able to choose his own 'lines' eg picks a subject to talk about - the weather, her dress, the location (disco: Isn't this song great?).
But I am sure Greystone can expand on and correct that.

 

04.11.2007, 18:25 quote

Anonymous

I'm sure that I can't be the only person who cringes at the thought of someone using a pickup routine, let alone actually witnessing it?

 

04.11.2007, 18:36 quote

Anonymous

"The best thing to do is just forget worrying about meeting women or scaring them off, but just relax and stop reading those books about picking up women",

I agree. Years ago there was this guy who i think spent every waking hour down at the railway station train spotting - for about 20 yrs i was told. Then one day they got a new *female* train guard....and about 6 weeks later they got married! I'm also told that now he still spends all his waking hours down at the railway station, with the kids, while his wife works.
And he was *not* looking to meet anyone, just enjoying his hobby of trainspotting.

Natural seems to work above and beyond artificial routines and lines.

 

04.11.2007, 19:28 quote

Greystone
Greystone Joined: 28 Mar 2007 Posts: 416 Location: United Kingdom, England, London
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maggiex35 wrote:
I've been reading this and I didn't realise there were guys who would spend hours out their days trawling the streets looking for targets!!! It kinda freaks me out.
Well how the hell are guys supposed to meet women in the first place if they don't go out and look for them? I have found that if I don't make a concious effort to look for women then I rarely ever bump into them! For years I only ever spoke to girls I knew through my friends or had met at school or work. But found that the numbers of girls I was meeting was quite low and that none of the girls I knew or was meeting fancied me.

Then I found a way to vastly increase the number of girls I could talk to and that was to talk to strangers. At first I had trouble getting any conversation going at all. But gradually I learned how to get conversations going and how to build rapid rapport and to the stage where it felt like talking to an old friend.

Then I came across the pick up scene in the form of books. I was very skeptical at first and then the internet took off. Then I came across the online pick up scene and watched videos of live pick ups and articles by master pick up artists. Eventually I found a local London pick up forum and met up with guys who were into the same thing as me to get good with women. On that London based pick up forum a lot of guys on there are getting dates and sex from women they meet in the street and other day time venues.

Also pick up training courses which are quite popular these days also teach men how to get off with women in the daytime as well as at night time venues. When I did that one on one course with Adam Lyons he took me out to meet women during the day.

 

04.11.2007, 19:51 quote

Anonymous

Bexbex - Have you heard of a book called "Games People Play" by Dr Eric Berne? Basically he says (in the 1950s I think) that life is a game, and some people fall into certain catagories. Two 'games' that come to mind are "Ain't It Awful" and "Yes, but...."
Methinks Greystone plays by the rules.....But hey each to his own, live and let live is what I say.....
PS thanks for the compliment Very Happy

BexBex wrote:
Ok, and correct me if i'm wrong here but Greystone, how many posts does Rocketgirl have to make before you finally get the message that she thinks you're good looking. Now if someone kept saying that to me for as long as she has to you i'd been PM-ing that person by now and arranging to meet!!!!!

Nice pic Rocketgirl!!! you're lurvly.

 

04.11.2007, 22:58 quote

Anonymous

Greystone wrote:
maggiex35 wrote:
I've been reading this and I didn't realise there were guys who would spend hours out their days trawling the streets looking for targets!!! It kinda freaks me out.
Well how the hell are guys supposed to meet women in the first place if they don't go out and look for them? I have found that if I don't make a concious effort to look for women then I rarely ever bump into them! For years I only ever spoke to girls I knew through my friends or had met at school or work. But found that the numbers of girls I was meeting was quite low and that none of the girls I knew or was meeting fancied me.

Then I found a way to vastly increase the number of girls I could talk to and that was to talk to strangers. At first I had trouble getting any conversation going at all. But gradually I learned how to get conversations going and how to build rapid rapport and to the stage where it felt like talking to an old friend.

Then I came across the pick up scene in the form of books. I was very skeptical at first and then the internet took off. Then I came across the online pick up scene and watched videos of live pick ups and articles by master pick up artists. Eventually I found a local London pick up forum and met up with guys who were into the same thing as me to get good with women. On that London based pick up forum a lot of guys on there are getting dates and sex from women they meet in the street and other day time venues.

Also pick up training courses which are quite popular these days also teach men how to get off with women in the daytime as well as at night time venues. When I did that one on one course with Adam Lyons he took me out to meet women during the day.


you amaze in the sense that you put more time and effort into trying to pick up women with your so called techniques rather than get a proper job and find a place to live so that you dont have to sleep rough on hampstead heath all the time.....your priorities in life seem to be severely twisted Rolling Eyes

I mean where are you going to take these women that you pull, back home to your tent on the heath?

 

05.11.2007, 10:27 quote

Greystone
Greystone Joined: 28 Mar 2007 Posts: 416 Location: United Kingdom, England, London
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scottie69 wrote:
you amaze me in the sense that you put more time and effort into trying to pick up women with your so called techniques rather than get a proper job and find a place to live so that you dont have to sleep rough on hampstead heath all the time.....your priorities in life seem to be severely twisted I mean where are you going to take these women that you pull, back home to your tent on the heath?
No I would obviously have to go back to their places or take them to a mates flat.

By the way I used to have a flat and occasionally work in the form of government schemes but still couldn't get a woman. It was for this reason that I moved to London to increase my chances of meeting more women. And I do consider it a high priority to get a girlfriend as being alone with no one to love is making me feel very depressed and heart broken. Sad

 

05.11.2007, 10:48 quote

Anonymous

"By the way I used to have a flat and occasionally work in the form of government schemes but still couldn't get a woman. It was for this reason that I moved to London to increase my chances of meeting more women."

Good grief! Please tell me that you did not *choose* to become homeless, just to meet women?

 

05.11.2007, 10:53 quote

Anonymous

Greystone wrote:
scottie69 wrote:
you amaze me in the sense that you put more time and effort into trying to pick up women with your so called techniques rather than get a proper job and find a place to live so that you dont have to sleep rough on hampstead heath all the time.....your priorities in life seem to be severely twisted I mean where are you going to take these women that you pull, back home to your tent on the heath?
No I would obviously have to go back to their places or take them to a mates flat.

By the way I used to have a flat and occasionally work in the form of government schemes but still couldn't get a woman. It was for this reason that I moved to London to increase my chances of meeting more women. And I do consider it a high priority to get a girlfriend as being alone with no one to love is making me feel very depressed and heart broken. Sad


I told you what to do to find a lasting relationship. Go places where you can find someone with mutual attraction rather then trolling the streets hoping to get lucky. Which obviously isn't working for you.

I can imagine on the net you probably try too hard, when chatting to someone.

 

12.11.2007, 11:54 quote

Greystone
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megalone wrote:
The chances are that when you meet the woman of your dreams, it will be at the time you expect it the least, you just can't schedule a time an place to get yourself a woman like a caveman.
No that is rubbish, complete rubbish as I never used to actively go out looking for women to get off with when I was a lot younger and guess what? I never met any new women who I didn't already know and never got any offers of dates.
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Pickup lines are for TV, I don't think that stuff really works in real life so much.
Pick up artists do not use pick up lines!!!They use pick up routines which consist of several parts an opener which can be anything to get a woman to answer you, a demonstration of higher value, building comfort and rapport and closing.

In pick up routines compliments on womens' looks are strongly discouraged instead the pick up artist is supposed to get the woman to qualify herself to the man. Such as the man asking a woman what job she does or what her greatest achievement has been. Then he can compliment her being good at that. The use of touching at key emotional points in a conversation is often used to help build rapport. Humour is sometimes used too in a cocky funny style. But is used sparringly as too much will make the man come across as a jerk.

Open questions are usually used once in conversation with a woman in pick up routines such as "what is the thing you like most about this place" etc.

By the way openers are not pick up lines as openers are designed merely to get the woman talking. An opener can be anything and is usually a situational comment or a simple question.

 

12.11.2007, 12:23 quote

Anonymous

Greystone wrote:
I never used to actively go out looking for women to get off with when I was a lot younger and guess what? I never met any new women who I didn't already know and never got any offers of dates.


That may be so, but (correct me if I'm wrong) it seems like you haven't had much luck with actively going out and practicing pick-up routines either. Taking up a hobby or class is always good because then you already have something in common with people you meet there.

Greystone wrote:
I do consider it a high priority to get a girlfriend as being alone with no one to love is making me feel very depressed and heart broken.


It concerns me that this is your top priority in life. If I were in your position, I'd try to find somewhere to live and work before thinking about a relationship. You will be an altogether more attractive prospect to women if you are secure and confident in yourself and in your own life first.

 

12.11.2007, 17:50 quote

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Today I seem to have a great sense of Deja Vu......Havent I heard all this before??? Honestly guys I'd give up....... and believe me I speak from experience
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