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11.04.2007, 22:27 quote

toby

I have had a poster once.....that was really detailled and contained a really precise timeline and showed how they all evolved .

Aspect oriented programming.....good question. Is this another direction and the successor of object-oriented programming or just a design pattern?

 

11.04.2007, 22:29 quote

kebabman
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toby wrote:
I have had a poster once.....that was really detailled and contained a really precise timeline and showed how they all evolved .

Aspect oriented programming.....good question. Is this another direction and the successor of object-oriented programming or just a design pattern?


Yeah it's seen (by some anyway) to be the successor to object orientation. It's to do with seperating the code up more than classes/methods or functions can into seperate areas that don't overlap at all. I don't really know a lot about it except that every time someone talks to me about it I think it will never take off Smile
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11.04.2007, 22:32 quote

toby

Have a look at http://www.hivemind.org.

I think Java will not be replaced that quickly as othr languages were replaced by new ones in the past....as this time it is just too strong through the community, all the handy gadgets/plugins, the free development tools...the available code and libraries and its Microsoft-freeness.

AOP will come.....because software is less and less monolithic and software is more and more a "matrix" of various modules that need to interface with other systems...nobody builds isolated systems from scratch anymore...you always have to connect with other systems. The other thing is the testability....sometimes you can not simulate a whole system and need to break it down..even just for testability - an average programmer probably spends 90% on debugging and testing and 10% on programming......hm...ok and documentation is also a big part...that I forgot.

 

11.04.2007, 22:37 quote

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toby wrote:
Have a look at http://www.hivemind.org.

I think Java will not be replaced that quickly as othr languages were replaced by new ones in the past....as this time it is just too strong through the community, all the handy gadgets/plugins, the free development tools...the available code and libraries and its Microsoft-freeness.


Yeah, Java is a good platform. One of the great things keeping it alive so much now is phones and other embedded devicces. I'm doing some work in the Linux kernel on gumstix http://www.gumstix.com/ and these even have a java vm running on them, someone else i know is doing userland work on them and says the JVM on them is really good and he can run all the code he needs to on them. These sorts of uses mean Java would be hard to get rid of. I think it's good for what it does. And like you say, microsoft free Very Happy
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11.04.2007, 22:38 quote

toby

What a shame nobody has managed to build a REAL virtual machine in hardware yet...all the people who have tried failed due to the dynamic memory allocation

 

11.04.2007, 22:40 quote

kebabman
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toby wrote:
What a shame nobody has managed to build a REAL virtual machine in hardware yet...all the people who have tried failed due to the dynamic memory allocation


That would be pretty cool although I thought I'd heard that it had been done now, maybe I'm wrong, a friend of mine knows a lot more about Java than me so I'll ask him. That would be pretty quick though.....
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15.04.2007, 15:00 quote

Aradon
Aradon Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 3097 Location: United Kingdom, England, Suffolk
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um, off the top of my head

pascal
basic
c
c++

i know a little java, but not much

also

HTML
PHP
ASP
PERL

and binary i speak fluent haha, um my main forté lies with machine code tbh, i did a lot of hardware architecture and stuff, most of which ive forgotten haha, did all the courses but never managed to get a job to apply the knowledge, what a waste

Web-based languages are what i concentrate on these days
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15.04.2007, 16:08 quote

chris343
chris343 Joined: 31 Jan 2007 Posts: 267 Location: USA, Connecticut, Hartford
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Good luck with learning classes in either language. So confusing at first.
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16.04.2007, 07:53 quote

Anonymous

C
C++
lil bit of C# seeing as though its basically VB.net with a bit of C syntax mixed. (Framework 2)
VB6
VB.Net

Might be learning Perl and SAP if i move jobs ^_^

what i would really like to work on is C# and ASP.Net tho. But if you dont have working experience noone cares what u want Rolling Eyes

 

21.04.2007, 22:57 quote

elitious
Joined: 06 Apr 2007 Posts: 1264 Location: United Kingdom, Scotland, Glasgow
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c,c++,asm,php,vb,vb .net, java, perl, bash,html, pascal, cobol, delphi ... +n

 

24.04.2007, 23:38 quote

is26
is26 Joined: 14 Apr 2007 Posts: 102 Location: United Kingdom, England, Staffordshire
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Java
Visual Basic
i did some C but hated it
HTML
ASP
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02.05.2007, 17:16 quote

Anonymous

cheekyeyes wrote:
matt ran all the antispyware addware progs and p.c is still slow on start up .... any more ideas matey


Worship the startuplist program

http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/programs.php

You need to have a clue to use it, though, because all it does is list what is starting up from just about anywhere a program can start from. It does almost nothing to help you beyond that.

I guess if you can't get someone to run that for you and have a look, then providing someone with the output from that program would help them to spot anything that might help.

I use it to find things once the likes of search & destroy, windows defender, adware & a few AV programs have all been tried. It's helped me find things that none of them have found!


Meanwhile, back on the subject of programming.

I probably know bash/shell scripting, php & javascript (if tht counts) the best. Beyond that I have dabbled a little in C++. Python and Ruby. I know HTML & CSS too, but I don't consider them to count.

 

02.05.2007, 17:23 quote

Anonymous

I was meant to learn Pascal for my computing GCSE or A-Level, I can't remember which, but I didn't do very well. The teacher was African and she wasn't very good. Her accent and lack of English lead to most of the class just messing around during her lessons.

Probably why I didn't pass that course with a very good grade. Didn't fail, just not a good grade.

 

30.05.2007, 10:11 quote

loveto
Joined: 29 May 2007 Posts: 20 Location: United Kingdom, England, Essex
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I know some c++ , vb6

 

31.05.2007, 21:15 quote

mmarkkdd

A little C, Java and C#

I wouldn't want to try and make a career out of it tho...

 
 
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