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22.02.2008, 14:16 quote

scottlarock

People in the UK who go online and illegally download music and films may have their internet access cut under plans the government is considering.
A draft consultation suggests internet service providers would be required to take action over users who access pirated material via their accounts.

But the government is stressing that plans are at an early stage and it is still working on final proposals.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7240234.stm

do you think it is something that isp's will be able to impliment?

imagine being banned form the internet for downloading a mashup mp3!

 

22.02.2008, 17:42 quote

chewy84
chewy84 Joined: 14 Jan 2007 Posts: 21 Location: United Kingdom, England, Northamptonshire
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The problem is that they are assuming all bittorrent traffic is illegal, when there are legitimate uses for it. Personally I can't see it happening because there are other ways of obtaining unauthorised content. If ISP's monitor all internet traffic then our connections will get much slower as a result. Also the ISP's are raising a point that when a customer sues them who should provide the legal funding - the ISP or the record industry. All it takes is for one customer to successfully sue them then this poorly thought-out piece of legislation will crumble.

I'm not saying that people should be downloading such content, just that it won't work as a law.

 

22.02.2008, 17:58 quote

CostaCork
Joined: 06 May 2007 Posts: 367 Location: Ireland, Cork, Cork
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You cannot stop people transferring files across the internet so there will always be a way around it.

 

22.02.2008, 23:52 quote

samenoname
samenoname Joined: 21 Jan 2008 Posts: 448 Location: United Kingdom, England, Devon
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Not only that as there are privacy issues involved. This will never happen and if it does then i am moving back to the USSR. How do you suppose they find this information that they want? By unencrypting confidential and personal information over a private line?

If this does happen there will be a huge fight first. I will be amongs the ones fighting to keep it.

I lost all of my music collection in the USA to my ex. I packed up two suitcases and came to england with nothing else. I paid for this music once already and i am not about to pay for it again. So that shows you my stance on this.

And like costa said ther eis always a way and there always wil be. If you cut the line we will go wireless instead. I have almost a dozen SSID's that are being broadcast in my vicinity and all i have to do is test those for acces but i am not going to do that. WAP and WEP, WEP2 encryption can also be bypassed if you have enough time.

 

23.02.2008, 01:21 quote

Anonymous

Well... not only can they monitor the traffic between peoples computers, but they already are. When you sign the contract to the ISP, it states that it can cancel your access at any time providing you were doing something illegal. Personally i dont see a big issue with this, its preventing a crime so why shouldnt it be allowed?

There has been a lot of crackdown on torrenting sites recently, with demonid being shut down... so i wouldn't be too suprised to see things go further.

 

23.02.2008, 01:30 quote

chewy84
chewy84 Joined: 14 Jan 2007 Posts: 21 Location: United Kingdom, England, Northamptonshire
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Regardless of whether they analyse data packets they don't know that the data is unauthorised file sharing. If they disable somebody's account it only takes one person who didn't do anything wrong to sue them then they breach their own contract.

There are plenty of other ways to send files that don't use Bittorrent/Kazaa/emule etc. Once you start using SSL that scuppers the filters.

 

23.02.2008, 13:51 quote

samenoname
samenoname Joined: 21 Jan 2008 Posts: 448 Location: United Kingdom, England, Devon
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wowza wrote:
Well... not only can they monitor the traffic between peoples computers, but they already are. When you sign the contract to the ISP, it states that it can cancel your access at any time providing you were doing something illegal. Personally i dont see a big issue with this, its preventing a crime so why shouldnt it be allowed?

There has been a lot of crackdown on torrenting sites recently, with demonid being shut down... so i wouldn't be too suprised to see things go further.



As far as being shut down they can do that if they want but then %70 of traffic on the net would stop and they will lose money. They know what is going on. There is more money being spent on Porn than cures for cancer.

 

27.02.2008, 15:25 quote

Aradon
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its a noble idea, protecting the intellectual rights of copyright holders, but its such a massive undertaking i can't see it working, the monitoring would require massive amounts of man hours and they would be prosecuting and banning people for the next century imo
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28.02.2008, 09:34 quote

samenoname
samenoname Joined: 21 Jan 2008 Posts: 448 Location: United Kingdom, England, Devon
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It is a noble idea but it wont work as you said. I lost all of my music to the Ex in the states. 25 years of stuff that i bought and have the rights to yet i am supposed to buy it again just because i left the states with nothing but two suitcases and the ex is being a pain in the rear and goes back on what she said?

Nah, i bought the music once and this is enough for me.

Who listens to Oingo Boingo any more anyway?

 

08.03.2008, 00:11 quote

samenoname
samenoname Joined: 21 Jan 2008 Posts: 448 Location: United Kingdom, England, Devon
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I just read an article in Micro Mart while i was at the store today regarding this very matter. Turns out that we might be under scrutiny soon. The article goes on to explain that it will be the ISP's that come under fire for letting this happen and they will face punitive damages for allowing this to go on. The problem of enforcing this and detecting this in the first place was not covered.

 

08.03.2008, 19:10 quote

scottlarock

possible scare mongering then

 

08.03.2008, 19:22 quote

Anonymous

I Piratebay.

Thats two things the swedish are good for, and they both involve movies!!!!!

 

09.03.2008, 10:05 quote

scottlarock

megalone wrote:
I Piratebay.

Thats two things the swedish are good for, and they both involve movies!!!!!

yeah they are good. i used to use demonoid more though, i lost a part of my life when demonoid closed Sad

you get more password protected and virus stuff on piratebay i think.

 

09.03.2008, 11:07 quote

Anonymous

I have never come across anything on Piratebay with a password, the best thing to do is stick to the top100 downloads and then they are always the real deal and they D/L faster too.
I can sort of sympathise with the film industry about piracy, but in my defence I like to watch before I buy.
If I really like a film, I will buy it, I don't see the point in paying all that money for a film I'll think sucks and never watch again.
I downloaded Juno when it was first on there and I have seen it loads of times now, but still cant wait to buy it on DVD.

 

25.04.2008, 15:29 quote

titwhipper

dimeadozen.org is a torrent site and not illegale

this is not spam

 
 
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