Thought I'd start a new topic to stop CM's bitching about cluttering up the thought of the day topic. If you feel like jumping in, please do so.

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As an aside I just tried netscape (1) and it can't even open the bbc's sports page.

Completely unbiased on this one (inasmuch as I use Firefox, with IE6 & 7 for testing my work), but sadly, I know many people (very intelligent, I hasten to add) who find simple computer-related tasks like downloading and installing software (such as web browsers), or performing upgrades, totally frightening and haven't done anything to their computer/laptop for years, until things start going 'wrong' (which is usually when my phone rings ).

And to be honest, although some of them might have created a profile of some description on a web site, or even manage to use a forum, such simple tasks for some of us, for them they are often accompanied by a lot of very blue language (or even a bit of help from their pubescent offspring), one-finger typing and much scratching of the head.

I take it this wouldn't be an appropriate time to argue the merits of moving from dial up to broadband........ no I didn't think so .

I think there is a third option to consider...some of us just can't be bothered to upgrade certain software as long as the software we do upgrade keeps the puter safe from intrusion, maybe we just don't use the puter to its full potential but really don't give a damn that we don't.

Fine. I shall concede that I may sound like I'm whinging. But I do not intend it to come off that way.

I shall say again, I am not talking about me. Want proof? In a bag at the side of me, there is a laptop with Windows Vista and IE7 installed. It has a bigger hard drive and better graphics. Why am I sat at a PC that is several years old with XP and IE6? Because I choose to be. I am comfortable this way. Why did I not mention this fact before? Because this was never about just me.

Ok, maybe I chose a bad example. But you cannot tell me that you are familiar with the user habits of every person who visits this site. Also, the company where I have just started work allows you to use the internet for personal use during lunchtimes, but checks what sites you use and doesn't allow any restricted sites.

And I find the point about 'not using a pc at all' a little excessive. I was speaking of people without any home access, not any access at all. But you knew that, you were just being bloody minded.

Installing any program is not as simple as registering for this website. People know who they are and their details...when presented with options they don't know when installing a program, it may just be click and hope.

I think we should agree to disagree on this matter. You are never going to see things my way, and I am never going to see things yours.

Oh, and just because Toby has weighed up all the options and made one decision should not prevent me from saying whether I believe it is the correct one or not.
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no discussion really

just get firefox

Just some abbreviated stats from one of my own web sites, with surprising (or perhaps not so) figures on how many visitors still use IE 6

MSIE 6: 1194987
MSIE 7: 183083
Mozilla and Netscape: 1410025
Opera: 19107
Konqueror: 161
Lynx: 86

Um, forgot to check Safari stats, apologies to Mac users

Oh yeah dial up..... well I was waiting until it came back in style, alas I think I've backed a three legged donkey in the National but hey ho its been an experience over the last couple of years. You can imagine how long the SP2 pack for XP for example took to down load ....the good old days...what a challenge they were

Don't get me wrong I've had the holy grail of BB but like I said in the post some of us just dont use the puter for much more than a glorified communication device rather than its true potential, again some of us can't and some of us won't, i'd like to place myself in the latter.

Unfortunately I'm breaking with tradition and will be upgrading in the next couple of weeks to BB so the wireless router will have to come out of the dusty box and I'll have to start putting the puter through its paces.....damn and blast I'll miss the blue bar at the bottom of the screen, my soft boiled eggs will never be the same again