Ok so i just read in another topic something that someone said and etaetascetc and i wasnt about to ask them because they're 16. Not that im age prejudice or anything, but im not expecting a well thought out answer from someone that wouldnt really know.

Yeh its about religion obviously..love before marriage?

I dont see why so many people are against it (of a religous background) ive never read the bible and i only choose to pretend to know whats in it..if it benefits my argument at the time. But, from what i can remember the bible does say something like we're put here to give god more children or some other randocommnado bs..love creates life? no? Does it say anywhere in there that love before marriage is wrong? (this is a question, not a fact breaking statement)

I dont understand how a piece of paper saying you're married actually changes anything. You get a ring, you get the same surname .. and that automatically means that you're allowed to have love?

I dont mean to offend anyone, but if God was all mighty on the whole love thing, correct me if im wrong but didnt he send an angel down to impregnate a random woman? there's a word for that in the real world and it carries a hefty sentence..holy missionary isnt it.

I guess i kinda need a religous person to enlighten me on why the rules in that book are so important to a better life when we're all given free spirits anyway.

I wanna hear from a religious person too.

I think and feel exactly the same, what difference does it make? Why is it living in sin if you do have pre marital love?

I personally dont believe in a god at all, if he hates a little thing like that then why does he allow all the crime, murders, rapists and terrorists to happen???

The thing is the bible is a a book of Chinese whispers, passed down by people over years and years and we all know how stories get twisted, so how can people lead their lives by that book?

Didnt Jesus dine with prostitutes or something?

Right.. As a previously religious person ima answer this. There are many reasons love before marriage is thought to be wrong. Most of them are pretty outdated and in this day and age - actually laughable.

Firstly.. It's not about being told you're not ALLOWED to have love before marriage. It's all actually down to personal choice, no matter who you are, generally the people you associate yourself with affect the way you think and your choices, to various degrees obviously. To constantly be preached to about the 'dangers' of love before marriage and be surrounded by people who have chosen to live this way will inevitably affect your decisions.

Christians aspire to live a 'holy' life, with love being viewed as a form of adultery and therefore a sin according to The Ten Commandments it is seen to be unacceptable. However, no sin is greater than another, so biblically the punishment for stealing, murdering and love before marriage is all equal. On reflection this in my opinion is used more as a scare tactic than anything else. Similar to when you're little, being told you won't get rewarded if you don't behave.

Most of the christian people I know, are virgins through personal choice not because of rule enforcement but ultimately because it's the life they choose, with slight 'encouragement' from the church and those around them, to live. Each to their own I suppose.

You could however, also say, they're just a kill joy

Just a few thoughts on this matter:-

I believe we come into this world 'free spirited' and with personal responsibility and a conscience.

According to how we're brought up, the society we live in, and what our life experiences are, then we will adopt a 'personal conscience' based on those things. A psychopath doesn't seem to have a conscience and acts outside of what most people would consider 'acceptable' but is he/she responsible for the way they behave?

People who don't believe in love before marriage are making it their freedom of choice in keeping with those values that have formed their conscience about what is right or wrong for THEM.

'Religion' means 'a way of life' and we all have that BUT I think Orthodox religions, their rules and sacred books are 'man made' and as jb says, they're a bit like Chinese whispers and could just be considered distorted records of history.
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So when did the idea of marriage come about?

Did someone sit down one day and say, there should be this thing where couples join themselves together for the rest of their life..and its then, that they may indulge in sexual activities?

I know it wasnt jesus, because mary was married to joseph..which btw, why was she a virgin if she was married?

I am gonna be a Muslim so I can marry Jade AND JB!!!

The bit of paper is not important: that is the legal, secular part of marriage.
The church (especially the Catholic Church) would say the important part was the Sacrament of Marriage.

Here’s the Catholic take on marriage – from Wiki.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_marriage
And here’s the Catechism for it, direct from the Vatican website to your desk!
http://www.va/archive/catechism/p2s2c3a7.htm

The best critical look at the Bible was written by Thomas Paine, around the time of the French Revolution. He wrote it in the mid-1790s, while he was locked up in France awaiting a decision on whether he would be executed or not. (The first part was written without access to a Bible or any reference books!) Luckily, he was rescued, nursed back to health and eventually returned to the States.
Here’s his take on the Virgin Mary:
‘When also I am told that a woman, called the Virgin Mary, said, or gave out, that she was with child without any cohabitation with a man, and that her betrothed husband, Joseph, said that an angel told him so, I have a right to believe them or not: such a circumstance required a much stronger evidence than their bare word for it: but we have not even this; for neither Joseph nor Mary wrote any such matter themselves. It is only reported by others that they said so. It is hearsay upon hearsay, and I do not chose to rest my belief upon such evidence.’
I’d recommend you read it, because although it was written over 200 years ago it has a modern feel to it and you can only marvel at it. It’s online here:
http://www.sacred-texts.com/aor/paine/aor/index.htm
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Haha! I knew you'd be the one to come up with the best reply........interesting too
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A women messaged me on another site and started chatting to me and wanted to meet me, and on her profile she said 'I'm very religious so no love before religious'. I told her it would would be awkward as I dont want to get married

Some cultures, I think its a disgrace if a women it still a virgin when she gets married, and young people are openly encouraged to sleep around.

We had marraiges over here long before christianity.

If I remember thebible correctly (and I only ever read it out of interest, though not all, admittedly) it is very contradictory on this point.
As was said in the original post Adam and Eve were told to go forth and multiply, but it also forbids ALL love, and not just love before marriage in another part.

The thing is with religion, there are many different versions, but people also insist that there are meanings which aren't expressly forbidden. It's mainly that one powerful group says this is the way, and people take it on trust.

One particular point that came up just recently with Islam is that images of Mohammed are not forbidden, though idol worship is. Providing nobody is worshiping images of Mohammed, there are no rules stating they can't be there.
However they were banned by one Islamic group, and many Muslims take their lead from that.

If you're not religious, try not to understand it, you never will. I've been fascinated by this stuff for ages, and the only thing I've managed to learn is why Jehovah's Witnesses knock on my door.
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I got in touch with my feminine side. She emailed me back saying if I ever contacted her again she'd call the police.

I had a commission to do a 'welcome greeting' picture in Sanskrit once and I was given the freedom to decorate the text and portray images of my choice so long as I didn't include any 'eyes'
So what's with the 'eye' thingy then?
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