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Home >> Anything else >> Underage love
11.10.2006, 14:45 quote
| Aradon wrote: |
| when (if) such a thing as take this sexual inhibitor or die comes to inforce, i think youll find the world go into rebel mode, anarchy would be rife as the common folk wouldnt stand for that kind of ultimatum.
believe me mate, i wont happen LOL unless the human rights laws are re-written of course :/ EDIT: as we both seem to have a penchant for sci-fi, i would go as far to say that one feasible scenario is one of Aeon Flux, where in our quest to cure something, we inadvertantly make ourselves sterile and thus have to clone ourselves to continue the race. something like what your suggesting would be similar to equilibrium, the regime would fail eventually. the only way what your suggesting would work is if said inhibitor was administered at birth without parents knowledge. |
At birth, by requirement of law, perhaps it would be combined with the innoculation jabs, making it required for any parents who have "home birthing" or just don't give birth within the vacinity of a hospital.
This wouldn't encompass everyone, and i'm sure a few males (particularly in remote areas) would escape this. However, without most of these jabs - they'd be more prone to regular (as opposed to sexual) disease anyway, so their life-spans would be limited to reduce threat.
Of course people would complain, people like love. However seeing as the only people who wouldn't be getting any - would be the ones under the age threshhold (we'll say it's 16 for sake of argeuement) and they have no power to stop it - since it would be administered before they even have any control.
Also, bear in mind - since they wouldn't have experienced love, and the treatment would control specific hormones, then they wouldn't crave it.
It wouldn't affect personal development. In fact, imagine how much better school grades would be if kids weren't spending all their time having love
This doesn't solve the problem of underage rape, as a vaccinated youth could still be subject to sexual abuse from overaged males. But again, I like the idea that they could be made impotent if registered as an abuser.
Before you go and say "but surely underaged kids would just be drawn to "un-restricted" (older) partners for love?" No, this is all hormonal control in the body. That's how we'd prevent guys getting it up. That's how we'd stop both genders gettin' "frisky".
No cravings. No problem.
It's normal in most sub-12 year olds. It wouldn't be hard to stretch it out a few years, sexual development can still continue, it's just sexual experience that would suffer. Hardly a loss.
11.10.2006, 15:49 quote
| swissrebel wrote: | ||
At birth, by requirement of law, perhaps it would be combined with the innoculation jabs, making it required for any parents who have "home birthing" or just don't give birth within the vacinity of a hospital. This wouldn't encompass everyone, and i'm sure a few males (particularly in remote areas) would escape this. However, without most of these jabs - they'd be more prone to regular (as opposed to sexual) disease anyway, so their life-spans would be limited to reduce threat. Of course people would complain, people like love. However seeing as the only people who wouldn't be getting any - would be the ones under the age threshhold (we'll say it's 16 for sake of argeuement) and they have no power to stop it - since it would be administered before they even have any control. Also, bear in mind - since they wouldn't have experienced love, and the treatment would control specific hormones, then they wouldn't crave it. It wouldn't affect personal development. In fact, imagine how much better school grades would be if kids weren't spending all their time having love
This doesn't solve the problem of underage rape, as a vaccinated youth could still be subject to sexual abuse from overaged males. But again, I like the idea that they could be made impotent if registered as an abuser. Before you go and say "but surely underaged kids would just be drawn to "un-restricted" (older) partners for love?" No, this is all hormonal control in the body. That's how we'd prevent guys getting it up. That's how we'd stop both genders gettin' "frisky". No cravings. No problem. It's normal in most sub-12 year olds. It wouldn't be hard to stretch it out a few years, sexual development can still continue, it's just sexual experience that would suffer. Hardly a loss. |
lol sometimes you scare me
11.10.2006, 17:47 quote
| swissrebel wrote: | ||
At birth, by requirement of law, perhaps it would be combined with the innoculation jabs, making it required for any parents who have "home birthing" or just don't give birth within the vacinity of a hospital. This wouldn't encompass everyone, and i'm sure a few males (particularly in remote areas) would escape this. However, without most of these jabs - they'd be more prone to regular (as opposed to sexual) disease anyway, so their life-spans would be limited to reduce threat. Of course people would complain, people like love. However seeing as the only people who wouldn't be getting any - would be the ones under the age threshhold (we'll say it's 16 for sake of argeuement) and they have no power to stop it - since it would be administered before they even have any control. Also, bear in mind - since they wouldn't have experienced love, and the treatment would control specific hormones, then they wouldn't crave it. It wouldn't affect personal development. In fact, imagine how much better school grades would be if kids weren't spending all their time having love
This doesn't solve the problem of underage rape, as a vaccinated youth could still be subject to sexual abuse from overaged males. But again, I like the idea that they could be made impotent if registered as an abuser. Before you go and say "but surely underaged kids would just be drawn to "un-restricted" (older) partners for love?" No, this is all hormonal control in the body. That's how we'd prevent guys getting it up. That's how we'd stop both genders gettin' "frisky". No cravings. No problem. It's normal in most sub-12 year olds. It wouldn't be hard to stretch it out a few years, sexual development can still continue, it's just sexual experience that would suffer. Hardly a loss. |
i hear everything your saying mate, but controlling hormones in such a drastic way would be VERY bad in the long term. without those hormones that make boys horny, Testtosterone, they dont develop properly, try and control eostrogen in girls and hell youve got some serious problems. on paper its super duper, the reality is just pish tho
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11.10.2006, 18:18 quote
| Aradon wrote: |
| i hear everything your saying mate, but controlling hormones in such a drastic way would be VERY bad in the long term. without those hormones that make boys horny, Testtosterone, they dont develop properly, try and control eostrogen in girls and hell youve got some serious problems. on paper its super duper, the reality is just pish tho |
Actually, testosterone is comprised of pregnenolone. It's the steroid that causes most growth and development.
The genetic makeup (we'll be at this level of genetic research by the time there's a problem to deal with) of several other hormones is the same.
It would be possible, although so far unrequired, to increase the effect of the pregnenolone in other hormones (besides testosterone).
Testosterone is just a specifically isolated version for males.
The only flaw in this plan is that it would have absolutely no effect on women, but to be fair - the main protagonist in love is almost always men.
In reality, at the moment, it's pish - because we don't need to control sexual behaviour. But it's do-able. By putting the alternatively pregnenolone-boosted hormones into the system through injection, and taking testosterone reducing medication, it'd be an interesting result.
But as you say - you hate biology
11.10.2006, 18:23 quote
*sigh*
yes Pregnenolone is a precursor in the synthesis pathway for the production of all corticosteroids.....
actually bollox to it, im bored of this now.
EDIT: changed my mind, heres the bio lesson
Pregnenolone, a memory-enhancing hormone, synchronizes brain cells to maintain youthful mental function
Pregnenolone is a sterone manufactured from cholesterol among the tiny mitochondria energy cells. Pregnenolone is the precursor of many steroids, and is eventually converted into a multitude of steroids and neurosteroids.
In a 1995 clinical study, Pregnenolone was discovered to be a potent memory enhancing sterone, possibly 100 times more effective for memory than DHEA. In animals, high Pregnenolone levels are clearly related to improved cognitive performance.
Like other steroids, pregnenolone consists of four interconnected cyclic hydrocarbons. It contains ketone and hydroxyl functional groups, two methyl branches, and a double bond at C 5, in the B cyclic hydrocarbon ring. Like all steroid hormones, it is hydrophobic. Its esterized version, pregnenolone sulfate, is water soluble.
Pregnenolone has been used for the treatment of arthritis since the 1940s. It is particularly effective against the swelling and inflammation associated with arthritis. Although it has fallen into disuse for that purpose, it has an impressive safety record and low toxicity.
Other clinical studies show that Pregnenolone is good at reducing stress levels, possibility by reducing the age-increasing effects of cortisol and inducing a better state of relaxation.
As levels of Pregnenolone decline with age, supplements can be used to improve energy levels, aid arthritis and enhance memory.
Pregnenolone undergoes further steroid metabolism in one of two ways.
Pregnenolone can be converted to progesterone. The critical enzyme step is two-fold using a 3-beta-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase and a delta 4-5 isomerase. The latter transfers the double bond from C5 to C4 on the A ring. Progesterone is the entry into the delta-4-pathway resulting in production of 17-hydroxy progesterone, and androstenedione, precursor to testosterone and estrone. Aldosterone and corticosteroids are also derived from progesterone or its derivatives.
Pregnenolone can be converted to 17-hydroxy-pregnenolone by the enzyme 17α-hydroxylase, a cytochrome P450c17 (CYP17) enzyme. Using this pathway, termed delta-5 pathway, the next step is conversion to dehydroepiandrosterone (DHEA) using a desmolase. DHEA is the precursor of androstenedione.
Pregnenelone and its sulfate, like dehydroepiandrosterone and its sulfate and progesterone, belong to the group of neurosteroids that are found in high concentrations in certain areas in the brain and are synthesized there. Neurosteroids affect synaptic functioning, are neuroprotective, and enhance myelinization. Pregnenolone and its sulfate ester are under investigation for their potential to improve cognitive and memory functioning
yeah i can see how it would help now, nice one!!! ![]()
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11.10.2006, 18:28 quote
lol ok you have lost me now, do we really need to find a way to stop sexual behaviour today? lmao i'm quite happy as i am you two can keep your needles
11.10.2006, 18:35 quote
| moldypeach wrote: |
| lol ok you have lost me now, do we really need to find a way to stop sexual behaviour today? lmao i'm quite happy as i am you two can keep your needles |
They're just doing a lot of cutting and pasting possibly
11.10.2006, 18:36 quote
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They're just doing a lot of cutting and pasting possibly |
pretty much, but only because im lazy and theres lots of figures and long names to remember
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11.10.2006, 18:43 quote
I'm not reading a bloody wiki response dude
I'll do the last line like you did
You've jumped to the conclusion it helps memory, but your post also includes Dehydroepiandrosterone. The most dominant love hormone in your body.
They are all neural!
Although a neural hormone, it still controls body development.
What was your point?
11.10.2006, 18:45 quote
| Jeggea wrote: | ||
They're just doing a lot of cutting and pasting possibly |
Every single word I type is based on written knowledge.
I take offence to being accused of copy/pasting.
I tell you what, google up a paragraph of my text!
11.10.2006, 18:45 quote
| Aradon wrote: | ||||
pretty much, but only because im lazy and theres lots of figures and long names to remember |
I agree....much easier then thinking for yourself
11.10.2006, 18:52 quote
I take on board all this but what i was saying was just like the pressure placed on woman/men to be a certain size. There is a hugh pressure placed on under 14's through the teen fashion, this has nothing to do with society it has to do with how people want under 14s years to be. Remember the cloths that i think sanisbury had to withdraw because they went to far. To be honest if you want to lead the argument about society, the society that fails to protect its young is a sad and sick society. if you force girls to grow up too quick and i am talking about under 14's here there is a price to pay. I see it in many places of children pushing prams with babies in them! ![]()
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