Ok to all ln this forum (marry this is serious de ja vè) That's the problem men worshiping womem especially those so called 9s & 10s. They don't want so wimpy guy leeching after them, they want what they can't get yes and that somebody they can't get is usally a fucking jerk. They prefer guy who is independant and makes the girl chase them not the guy after the girl ( the chase as it's called is some apparent game a women plays?). Hope this clears some the fog.