http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t244-zEENSs watch the last third in particular, some of these people were seriously injured and this goes completely unreported.

The demonstrates how the BBC are lieing. This was the peace camp, not the anarchists. My father was beaten by the police 4 years ago for taking a photograph of another policeman beating someone else. Our media is so corrupt.

To those of whom watch mainstream media and don't have first hand experience of how corrupt our system is, in many other walks of life, I am affraid you are unwittingly very naive which is not your fault but just understand that. Don't belittle those who are asking for radical change because, at least for some of them, they may know more than you and it is a priori that you can't know what you don't know.

There are so many more cover ups than this. Our system pretends to be squeaky clean and that is what will make it become known, in time, as one of the most corrupt systems in history.

I went down there yesterday. I knew people would be penned in at Bank, so I walked down from Fleet Street towards Bank station. On getting there at 12noon there were loads of police and police vans at every entrance to the Bank area. I kept on the perimiter to avoid getting penned in. Then after a while walked up to Bishopsgate to have a look at the Climate Camp.

Nothing much was happening at the Bishopsgate area when I got there at 12:15 so I walked back to Bank and ended up on Cornhill where about a thousand people were but a police cordon prevented entry into the Bank area. Hung around here for a while. There was no violence at all that I could see just tons of police looking intimidating.

When I got back to Bishopsgate at about 12:45 the climate camp was in full swing and it was a great street party carnival atomosphere. I spent another while here before going back to the Bank area when I moved around onto Mansion House. Another police cordon was here but there was a big gap between this cordon and the one at Bank which was filled with people. A narrow side street allowed access to Cannon Street. Suddenly I saw loads of people run from here down Cannon Street and I slowly followed them. When I got to the eastern end of it a saw an office window had been smashed in.

Eventually I made my way back to Bishopsgate for the climate camp and stayed there until about 8pm by which time the police were getting really heavy and had donned riot gear and were pushing people about. All in all though I saw very little violence from any of the protesters.

Three people I spoke to who had been inside the pen at Bank for hours said that the police had started the trouble by penning people in and then batoning them from two sides. They said it was only after this that the RBS building was attacked.

Doesn't matter how many times the BBC shows a few people breaking windows, the police did look like the biggest thugs there. It did seem to me they were trying to provoke something.

I think since Thatcher used the police as strikebreakers during the miners strike, the police have been used to curb peaceful demonstration. Soon we wont have any rights to demonstrate about anything awkward to the self serving pigs. Students now seem more interested in mobile phones and buying the latest trainers. When did they stop demonstrating??

But more on topic..does anyone know what has ever come out of these meetings, apart from drunk civil servants?? oh yeah, they make decisions 'in principle'.

Admitedly now they might have something to talk about and some decisions to make.

Some are saying this is a new level of corruption. Sadly this isn't the case. My father has been a photographer at protests for years. He is a full time head of department are a respected school before anyone applies their stereotypes upon him. He said that penning has been used at most protests. Far worse than this though, was the fact he was beaten and bruised for taking photographs of ANOTHER man being beaten by police. His camera was taken and the film ripped out. The lack of reporting on the BBC demonstrates systematic corruption for a number of years across a number of organisations.

Peoples lack of willingness to recognise this shows how the brainwashing by mainstream media is equal to that of Gobels work under the Nazi regime.

I once worked in a bank a number of years ago. During my time there they openly encouraged people to get new credit that they knew they couldn't afford.

My direct experience shows me that there is serious systematic corruption.

I'm not a stereotypical hippie or a conspiracy theorist, I am simply reflecting upon my life experiences and that of my close family. I have also studied political philosophy and political science at university and shall be starting my postgraduate studies this year.

I encourage/urge any sceptical person who is reading this to look beyond mainstream, News24/Sky news as they are a totally unreliable source to base opinions upon.

Oh and someone rightly said earlier in this thread that we need a sense of humour, and I completely agree , but that doesn't mean we have to become apathetic/ignorant

Jeggae, I agree with most of your points. Thatcher did indeed show poor judgement, creating many of the UK's current social and finance problems. Blame can be a distraction though, and the key problem lies deep within the capitalist system. Big business, whether the media or our supermarkets have grown so big that they dictate policy to a greater extent than from a less bias, socially aware view.

The problem therefore lies in profit making big corperations. Not, however, individual CEO's or chairmans, some are bad, some are good, but in the structure itself and the destructive self interest that arrises FROM this.

I am unsure whether reform needs to come internally or externally, but our system is critally ill.

A lot of this comes down to theories from game theory. Basically group rationality is more effective. Society, which is now global needs to work together. Business tends to have self interest and a in the worst case they work together and have their own group rationality which make them even more toxic.

A lot of change needs to take place to avoid a far more serious catastrophe than we are seeing at the moment. Leaders will need to be very strong headed to make these changes, we shouldn't be blameful if they don't manage this. However I don't discount the potential requirement for external intervention.

Let me also just say, this is one of many pieces of research that demonstrate the deterioration of happiness. In 1950 we (in the UK) laughed for 20 minutes a day on average. In 1995 that was down to 5 minutes a day. I don't even think people know how happy people once were as they haven't experienced it.

That's the best thing I've read in months.

thank f*ck those hippie f*ckers have gone home and life in the city can go back to normal.

I'm still annoyed that they waste police and the hard working public's time.

I can now go back to wearing big brand name clothing like NIKE, drinking coffee from STARBUCKS and eating lunch from large multiple national fast food chains.

God bless capitalism and multi nationalisation

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I was outraged when I saw these protests - whilst im all for revolution and freedom of speech - I couldnt quite understand what damaging the RBS Building was gonna achieve apart from lighten the taxpayers pockets.

Than having to police these so called do-gooders....Yes I agree AM.

God damn protest hippies. The police have better things to do than make sure some weed-smoking assholes dont bring london to a complete standstill because they think 'mother earth is being killed man... we gotta stop the killing...'
oh no.. ive spilled a load of petrol on the hippies.
oh no.. ive accidently lit a match and thrown it on the hippies.

climate change is a myth.. and a god damned stupid one at that. its been shown that the earth has a natural cycle going between hot and cold phases. Sure, we might not be aiding the problem but for christ sake, get a grip, get some perspective and find something better to do than heckle people about global warming.
People think CO2 can just be turned off, newsflash jackass, it can't. if we decided to stop co2 emmisions right now, industry would stop, we'd have no power, no water, no cars, nothing. That means no hospitals and no emergency services.

Protests are futile and a waste of everybodies time.
I must admit, it makes me chuckle when I see protestors on TV. They look like such fools.
If you want to make a difference, then do something about it rather than hold up cardboard signs and shouting slogans everywhere. Do some research, do some learning, stop smoking weed, get a job, stop making an ass of yourself.