I'm sure you haven't really offended anyone, can we (please) just drop it?

No one has offended anyone ............ certainly not me ............. just some threads should be kept as serious as this topic is a pretty serious one and not everyone would see the funny side that's all ............... x

ur opinion is valued as much as the next person

I'd never commit suicide, its just not in me to do it, and I'm not that much of an attention seeker. I love myself too much [even if no one else does], and to me the best means of defence is attack. There are always answers to a problem.

In saying that it seems to me some people are destined to do it, and it is only a matter of time. A good mate of mine, he's two sons [twins] committed suicide together [hanged], few years later he's wife died of cancer. After that when I spoke to him I knew it was only a matter of time. So wasn't surprised when I read in the local paper he was found hanging. Before hand he was always deeply depressed, which he probably didn't get help for and maybe didn't want help.

I have sat up for many hours talking to friends that have threatened to do it for all sorts of reasons, from attention seeking to being depressed. In one case sitting in an hospital waiting room until 5 in the morning. But deep down its always seemed odd that people would want to do it.

I've been going through a bad time over the last few years and have no one to help me through it, as its easy to get deserted in time of need. But I know I will pull through it, and probably will be a better person

But I'm not saying that everyone that does it or considers it are attention seekers as I know they aren't, and my recent problems has made me understand a little bit why people could do it.

Is it just an easy way out for some people though?

Easy way out?

I can only say from my own personal experience.
Yes, in the sense that I was avoiding facing what caused me to consider it in the first place.
But, paradoxically perhaps, actually doing it (my attempts were real, not half-hearted, I really did want to die) I have to say took an awful lot of strength of mind to go ahead with.
Looking back, I am glad that I did not choose jumping in front of a train or shooting myself cuz I wouldn't be here to tell the tale.
I realise now that if I had the strength of mind to 'end it' then I have the strength of mind to face my demons.
Personally speaking of course, I am well-aware that others may well totally disagree with that analogy.
Oh, and I will bring religion into it for just a moment.
To be honest, since I have reconciled myself with God, I think the bottom line for me is that if the going got that tough again, the only thing to stop me from being successful in suicide would be that He gave me life, and He takes it away, I still feel kind of guilty for not trusing in Him in the first place.
But, as I said, that's just me and others will think and feel differently.

Actually Robin, the truth is this.
I had un-diagnosed post traumatic stress disorder and psychosis (left undiagnosed for 7 years) , no one least of all me understood why I was like I was and I became convinced that my children and husband and in fact the entire world would be a better place if I were not in it.
So, in a sense I neither "wanted" to die or cease living, I simply thought it was the best option for everyone, including me.

My mum has been through all sorts of stressful things in the last 70 years, from WW2, kids dying, being skint and trying to feed six kids, and more.

But she had deep depression about a year ago. She didn't know she had it, just that she didnt want to live any more. I had to go to her flat 4-5 times a day and stay there until midnight because she didn't want to be alone. To cut a long story short, the doctor prescribed some medication and within 2 weeks she was okay.

There is always probably an answer if you want to find it, or you have someone there to help you.

BTW, my mums depression could have went diagnosed if I hadn't caused a fuss. the NHS can be crap at times

I was the last person my uncle spoke to before killing himself. i was 10. Suicide may seem like the only way out, but in probably 9 times out of 10 i'd say there IS another solution. I'm not saying it's the easy way out because 2 years ago, my cousin (aged 19) killed herself. She knew exactly the destruction it caused our family the first time, and I'm sure she would have been tortured by that thought.

Both members of my family were practising Catholics and as such believed they were destined to go to Hell if they killed themselves. Whatever their reasons, it must have seemed better to suffer in Hell for eternity than to continue living. That's something I can't understand as i've never been depressed.

I just hope that they both thought it through properly. I'm not saying I agree with it, but I just hope it wasn't done on a whim? x

I think, speaking from experience, everyone has their own reasons why they would never do it or have done it. I dont think it makes you a weaker person for doing it, sometimes and people might be offended by this but i think people that have done it (succeeded or not) are able to express their emotions better than people who couldnt comprehend doing it.

I was 17 and i had some terrible trauma in my life, i hated who i was and i had no reason to live, i wanted to leave it all behind. But i was very selfish and i only thought of myself and when i woke up in hospital to my mom and dad and the harsh reality with a lot of questions to answer it brought it all in perspective and i can honestly say im a better person for doing it.

Nuff said.